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Theo Von
Theo Von

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Theo Von
Theo Von

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Theo Von
Theo Von

And, thank you guys so much. Merry Christmas. Happy holidays. Today's guest is a host. He's an interviewer.

Theo Von
Theo Von

He's a provocateur, if you will. We had him on previously, and we had a great time. He has his own podcast called the Tucker Carlson show. He was just ranked one of the top 10 podcasts in America. Looking forward to spending time with him.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Today's guest is mister Tucker Carlson. We wanna support out too, so I'm excited about that.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

That started on the show, which is kinda weird.

Theo Von
Theo Von

That Alp started on the show? Oh, yeah. That's right.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Was your show. Did it. It's when they threatened me. It's when PMI, Philip Morris, wrote me this letter. You were on a well known comedian's podcast, and you said this about our product.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

I was like, fuck you, and started my own. And it's been really successful, so I'm grateful.

Theo Von
Theo Von

So did they get upset about anything you said on the show?

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

On your show? Yeah. Yeah. Because they said it it was like a boner cure or whatever. Oh, yeah.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

It's Viagra, which it totally is.

Theo Von
Theo Von

You think nicotine helps your erection? Yeah. Oh, I don't I don't think it helps mine.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

You know, I don't think you're using enough.

Theo Von
Theo Von

I mean, I've I've hit a, you know, hit a vape. Like, I'm just, you know, like I'm keeping a train going, you know? Mid act? Like keeping like a Amtrak, like I'm leading an Amtrak. Vape

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

while you're actually engaged in right? But that's the beauty of a pouch. You can double up during.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Oh, I like that.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

I mean,

Theo Von
Theo Von

that's Well, it's something like a battery

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

recommend. I'm not, obviously. Nothing to do with me.

Theo Von
Theo Von

I'm still, like, using fire. You know? It's like, if I'm sitting there just hopping on a vape, killing time. Also, if you're not getting an erection, you're trying to kill time until you get one. That's the toughest thing that people never talk about about erectile dysfunction.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Really?

Theo Von
Theo Von

Yeah, because you're like

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

It's like waiting at the DMV kind of? Yeah, kind of. Waiting for some lady to call you, is that yeah, it's the same.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Maybe it's that girl, Bonnie Blue. She's like number 49 or whatever.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Not ready.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Dude, yeah, that'd be crazy. Just give me a couple minutes. No, dude. The lies I would use to have to make up because I have pretty bad erectile dysfunction, like, in my twenties and the lies I'd have to make up.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Wait. Wait.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Without getting too personal, how did you have erectile dysfunction in your twenties?

Theo Von
Theo Von

Dude, I moved in with a guy who Okay. Mistake number one. Right. For sure. That didn't help.

Theo Von
Theo Von

But that's because he had a, he had a script of wiener pills, and so I'd get over there. So I'd I'd nibble off of his wiener pills. And this is when wiener pills were really first pop. When they were first out of the gate, when people like you had to get prescription. Right?

Theo Von
Theo Von

Now you can just do like telehealth. Now you can get some Indian guy who'll just mail you a bag of them, you know? And they have saffron on them, which is sometimes it's kind of a lot, but you take what you can get. But, but, dude, I would stay over with him and he would, and he didn't notice. He would drink a lot, so he didn't notice sometimes I would, like, cut one in half or just take one.

Theo Von
Theo Von

You know? But so I was living with, like, a 70 year old dude just a cop's part of his wiener pill script because

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

You were kept, Viagra kept you there. Yeah.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Dude, that was a crazy but I when I think back of the reality of that, that was bomb. Yeah.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

I fair. Even by LA standards, that's pretty far out. Yeah. Usually, you move in with a sugar daddy for, like, the cocaine or something, but you're there for the boner pills. But can I ask, how do you how do you think you ended up needing him in the first place at that age?

Theo Von
Theo Von

Just too much mental, too much in my head, you know? Like I would try to be getting a boner or whatever, and my brain would be like, you got a little boner bitch or whatever. Like my brain did not like me, you know? So, and we had to, and we live together. And so it was like a constant battle.

Theo Von
Theo Von

But then I think as I've gotten older and gotten more calm, it's been easier. It's just been more calm. That's so that's so interesting.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

So you were, like, trying to defeat yourself?

Theo Von
Theo Von

Yes. I would be like, or if I couldn't get it started, it was just like, man. You know? So then you're killing time. You're like, hey.

Theo Von
Theo Von

You know? It's like, you wanna watch a pro you know, it's like, let's put on a move. You know? Just like trying to kill time while you're waiting to get a boner. It's very you know, you're it's a that's a tough gig.

Theo Von
Theo Von

That should be an Olympic sport, I think.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Like the biathlon.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Yeah.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

It's weird, but there are few people in world really good at

Theo Von
Theo Von

it. Really?

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Yeah. Well, biathlon for sure. I don't know. Boner waiting. Biathlon is the cross country's waiting.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Yeah. It's not actually certified yet. No, biathlon is the cross country skiing and then shooting.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Oh, yeah. I have seen that. That's pretty fun.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Well, it's wild because these guys are just like huffing. You know, imagine being oxygen deprived and then trying to shoot straight or do anything really.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Oh, look, this is the skill we're all going to need probably in a few years if we want to survive. I think that this is important. Totally agree. But does ALP so ALP is your brand.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Alp is our brand. We started it because of your show because the first and only other time I've been here, we're in some other city.

Theo Von
Theo Von

We're in Bellagio. We are in the Vegas. Vegas.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

And I had it and you said, What's that? And I made a joke about how it was a marital aid or something. Not even a funny joke. And then about a week later, I got a letter from the general counsel's office at Philip Morris International, which owns ZYN, and they said, you know, how dare you make unsubstantiated medical claims about our product? And I was like, first of all, I'm shilling your product just to be nice because I like it.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

And now you're scolding me for making a boner joke, which, by the way, was a compliment.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Yeah. If somebody's in and then they're suddenly they got that dong going, who cares? Know You what I'm saying?

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

I thought it was funny. I thought it was a compliment, and but they were so corporate and nasty with me Yeah. That I decided I'm gonna make a competing product, and we did. And then around that time, probably about a week or two later, I asked around. I never really asked anyone about Xen, and I found out that almost every other person using Xen was using it rectally.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

I literally had no idea.

Theo Von
Theo Von

They were using it what they were Rectally.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Yeah. They use it rectally. Most Xen users use it rectally, and I didn't know that.

Theo Von
Theo Von

What? Where at? Like, like, phi kappas or whatever?

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

No. No. No. No. Just normal consumers of it.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Like, in fact, in a lot of places when you buy it, you get a little tube of don't know if you ever bought it. You get a, like, a little tube of Vaseline and

Theo Von
Theo Von

some surgical gloves. No.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

I'm serious. And I had no idea. And I was like, in a country of 350,000,000 people, like, there should be a pouch for your mouth. Yeah. You know, it shouldn't all be rectal use.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

And by way, I'm not in any way judging at all. I think it's consistent with, like, other parts of their lives. But but whatever. I was like, this country needs an oral use only pouch. Yeah.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Yeah. Yeah.

Theo Von
Theo Von

And we we made one. And so you guys made one.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Yeah. But I didn't know any of that. And I'm, like, hapless you know, I'm putting it in my mouth, and occasionally, people look at me, like, on a plane or whatever I put in my mouth, and they would give me that look like that's not what you're supposed to do with that, but I didn't even know. I didn't have any reference points for it. But, you know, you you learn stuff as you age.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Yeah. If you're using that third jaw, I think, to catch a to catch a nicotine hit, that's pretty wild. Well, the

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

problem is you can you can overdo it, and you forget. It's hard to keep track of how many are there.

Theo Von
Theo Von

You know what I mean?

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

And you can just a lot of things happen. I've never done it, but I have talked to people who are

Theo Von
Theo Von

into it. Oh, it'll build up like a beaver dam back there, I feel like. You know? That's crazy. Tucker, good to see you,

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

man. That's great.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Here we are. We've already discussed erectile dysfunction, which I admitted I had, which is definitely never is gonna help my dating life, but here we are. No.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

I think it makes you more more relatable, less threatening. I bet you get a lot of calls after this, actually.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Well, he I will say this, though. If you took an erection pill, say you went on a date or something that was going pretty well and you took part of it or you nibbled off a little piece because do not make the mistake of taking

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

a hole when you're What happens?

Theo Von
Theo Von

Dude, I couldn't even hug somebody goodbye. I was just like,

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

you know, like You're, like, in seventh grade again.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Oh, dude. Yeah. Yeah. Cavs were stopping. It was like they're like, what do you want?

Theo Von
Theo Von

You know? So that wasn't that wasn't good, dude. Like, that was, yeah. You take a whole one, dude. Yeah.

Theo Von
Theo Von

People will start hanging their coats on you and stuff. It's really it can be a lot. But, yeah, you would just nibble off enough. You started to gauge how much you needed, you'd nibble off

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

I feel like you could become dependent on it, though.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Oh, you definitely did. But at a certain point, it, like, alleviated, like, the fear of, like, of this of a kind of of the it alleviated the fear. Your performance anxiety. Right. It kind of like it.

Theo Von
Theo Von

So then after a while, you didn't need it all the time. So it kind of sounds helpful. Yeah. It was kind of like training wheels in a way type of thing. You know I'm saying?

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Totally.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Yeah. Like you use it and then you don't need it. But, yeah, dude, that was a weird time, dude. I one time, I was over there. And so the dude like, we only had we only had one bedroom, so I would just sleep on the couch.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Right?

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

You sure there's not more to the story? There's nothing more. Okay. So an older man moves you into his house and gives you boner pills, but it's totally on the level. Like, there was nothing weird at all.

Theo Von
Theo Von

And my friend's dad.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Oh, okay. Okay. Good.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Okay. So my friend's dad, and I think he'd, cheated on his wife or something, so he got kicked out.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Yeah.

Theo Von
Theo Von

And so and I was looking for a place to live. Anyway, I used to go like, I was learning the guitar at the time. And so he would have this lady stay over sometimes, and he would have me come in there and play music to him in the dark and shit. And I just learned how to play, tears in heaven.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Just to, again, to stand back and, you know, with no prior knowledge of the story at all, but just to, like, assess the facts as you've laid them out, you get invited to live with an older man

Theo Von
Theo Von

Yep. And a girl. He was athletic. He played tennis.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Who has a stash of boner pills, and then he invites you into the bedroom with him and the girl to serenade them.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Yes. At night. Kind of at And this never got

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

freaky at all. Like, not for one say. You're like, that's totally normal.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Yeah. Not at all. It but it just it was weird enough.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

It's the most LA story ever.

Theo Von
Theo Von

It happened in Louisiana. Oh, no way.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

I was thinking you like, Cato Kalin in the guesthouse.

Theo Von
Theo Von

This happened in Downtown New Orleans, dude. And I used to borrow his car. It wouldn't turn off. If you turned it off, you couldn't turn it back on. So you had to leave it running all the time, and you had to, like, put gas into it.

Theo Von
Theo Von

So I'd go to I'd use his car to go to school over there there over there at Loyola, and, I would just leave it run I would just, like, leave it running all day, dude. Ugh. Anyway, Tucker Carlson, good to see you, man.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

It's great

Theo Von
Theo Von

to see you. Great to see you. Congrats on ALP. Is it is it doing well? I I remember I went to y'all's party last year.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Yeah.

Theo Von
Theo Von

And there was a lot of neat, neat people there.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Yeah.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Josh Smith was there, I remember. Lexi was there. Mel Gibson

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

was there last year. Did

Theo Von
Theo Von

he come? Yep. He was really nice. I mean, he's a great guy.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

He's a great guy, and there are a lot of people.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Yeah. No. It's actually done. Jimmy John was there?

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Love Jimmy John Leoteau, one of my favorites. Vince Vaughn. Oh, you know, good guys. People who like nicotine. Nicotine's super important.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

This country's gotten far sadder and less healthy since it was discouraged and is coming back. I think it shows, like people are just happier. But no, the company's done I've never been in business. I've never sold anything. I've only talked for a living.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

I didn't grow up around business. I know nothing about it. I'm terrible at math. So, yeah, it's done really well. So well that I'm I feel a little bit embarrassed.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

But we have a big factory near here with 14 manufacturing lines, and it's like it's cool. Wow. I like it. Yeah. It's actually been the single most amusing and purely fun thing I've ever done.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Of course, I have no role in, like, the business. You would never allow me near a business ever, but I'm super enthusiastic. I help pick the name and the design and the flavors. Like, I know a lot about that because I'm a lifelong nicotine user. Over forty years, I know a lot about nicotine, but I know nothing of business.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

So I'm not involved in any of that. My college roommate runs it and is, you know, my best friend. So I but I hear about it. But, basically, yeah, it's been wildly successful because I think people want a pouch that you can put in your mouth. You don't have to put it in your butt.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

And a lot of people felt like they did. There's just a lot of pressure to do that, and you feel it all around you. Like, oh, it's totally cool. All the guys are doing it. And some some people are like, I'm not gonna do that.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Yeah. And I don't wanna have to go to, like, a Tiesto or a John Summit or a Levity concert or have to go to, like, a widespread panic concert to get somebody to boo fit into my A

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

100%.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Straw or something. It's like, how do you even get help getting it in if you need help?

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Well, I think that's part of it. I think for a lot of people, zen is a group activity. Mhmm. Like, it happens, you know, with, like,

Theo Von
Theo Von

friends. Yeah. Yeah.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

But and that's fine.

Theo Von
Theo Von

She's in heaven.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Like, that type of thing. Totally.

Theo Von
Theo Von

I can't believe that was the song I played, and that's what they made me play, dude.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Would you know? Shut up.

Theo Von
Theo Von

That's the only first When you

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

were serenading the boner pill guy and his girlfriend?

Theo Von
Theo Von

Yeah. What do you think I would play? I only knew that in Every Rose As It's Thorn. Come on. Those are, like, two of the beginner songs, man.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Wow. I was pretty good.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

I think it would be, like, brown eyed girl or something. Older guy.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Oh, definitely. Well, brown eyed girl, definitely, if you're using one of those those pouches you're talking about, dude. Yeah. You know?

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

But that's, like, kind of a classic boomer kicked out of the house with his younger girlfriend. Play brown eyed girl. You know, it's kinda Oh,

Theo Von
Theo Von

yeah. I thought brown eyed girl is something dealing with somebody's butt. You know? Hey. Where did we go?

Theo Von
Theo Von

Oh. Days when the When the rains came. When the rains came.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Down in the hollow.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Playing a new

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

So good.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Playing a new game. You know what I'm saying? So BLM, homie. Tucker Carlson's here, dude. Dude, you just I just saw you got a top 10 podcast, one of the top 10 podcasts in America.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Do you

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

see that? No. I didn't. I didn't. Did you see that?

Theo Von
Theo Von

Really? I

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

didn't. I honestly didn't know that. No. It's we have a rule in our office, which we've stuck with for, like, like, three over thirty years now to wherever I've worked, like, no compliments. Don't believe in that.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

So you don't ever want to work with people who compliment you at all, and you know when it's hitting, and you can feel when you're doing what you're supposed to be doing. But having people around you are like, oh,

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

we're kicking ass. You're so great.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Yeah. Like, that's the fastest way to rot your soul and just become an asshole. And having spent my life around assholes, I'm like, oh, I don't wanna be that. So no. No.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

No. There's never any talk about that ever.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Well

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

but I'm glad to know that. It's better than being in the I've certainly been in the bottom many times in my life. You know what I mean? I had ratings that were so bad at one network I worked at that there were some questions as to whether, given the margin of error, anyone was watching. Anyone.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Any human being was watching. Yeah. Like, couldn't tell you really with precision. Right. So, I've been there.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Dang. Yeah. Well, now you're not there anymore. I mean, it is fascinating, especially to hear how quickly people have gone away from cable. Yeah.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Do you have cable? I don't even know if I have it. Right. I mean, mostly I watch sports and then I just work a lot.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Totally. And there's just a lot of stuff. Like, you could spend your life texting. How many people do you text with every day? Oh, right.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Too much.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Yeah. Exactly.

Theo Von
Theo Von

But, yeah, you won you were a top 10, man. So pretty cool. And you were you also got antisemite of the year. Or you got Did I win? No.

Theo Von
Theo Von

I don't you also got nominated for antisemite of the year. Bryce Mishold is campaigning, it feels like. So

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

He is I love Bryce. He's he was there. His son's named Tucker, by the way, I'm to say.

Theo Von
Theo Von

His son is so cute too. He's unbelievable. Did I see his son at your party last year?

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Yes. And his wonderful wife. Yeah. The funny thing is I'm not even an antisemite, and I'm Yeah. How did that feel?

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Antisemitism.

Theo Von
Theo Von

I agree.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

How did that do that? Like, Every day for the last ten years. I don't think I think it is immoral to judge people on qualities they can't control what they're born with. I don't think that people are guilty by virtue of their blood. That's why I disagree with the Netanyahu cabinet.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

They believe the Palestinians are subhuman because they're Palestinian. And I just that's a attitude that's anti Christian. I totally reject it. I've criticized them for that specifically. And so I completely opposed to antisemitism.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

And so and I mean it too. And by the way, if I was antisemit at this stage, be like, yeah.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

I'm an antisemitism. Love Handler. Would just say it. Like, why not? Probably the number one podcaster.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

But I'm being totally sincere. I'm opposed to it. So why do they keep calling you that me that? And I know one of these guys very well in here. I said I know Bryce, but I know another person on the bottom.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

I know two of them. Know Anna too. They not only are non antisemites, they think antisemitism is immoral. So why do they call you something that you're not and that they know you're not? They do it to make you into what they call you.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

They are trying to make you a hater. And that is, like, the key insight I've had over the last year. It's like, I I used to think like, people would always call me racist. And I would do these, like, long monologues. Like, actually, I'm not a racist.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

I would say so if I was. I kind of like black people, but it's not even has nothing to do whether I like black

Theo Von
Theo Von

people or don't. Jerseys or whatever?

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

I kinda do, but even if I didn't, hating people on the basis of racist and morons.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

So I do these, like, long monologues, and I would stay up and write them,

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

you know, at home and be like, I'm gonna tell the truth. And everyone be like, shut up, racist. And I'd be like, what is this? They could criticize me for all my real faults, which are super obvious. You know?

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

I think they're very obvious. I I get mad. I over state things. I always gain a shit ton of weight every summer. Like, I have faults that are obvious to everybody, but they never attack me on those.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

They attack me on the things that I'm not why? And this year, I finally figured it out. It's like they want to make you into a hater. Why? Two reasons.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

One, to control you. This is like a form of control.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Why? Because then they can label you?

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Sure. Then you're a Nazi. It's like you don't need to first of you can kill Nazis. Right? So it's obviously to get you killed is part of it.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

But part of it is much deeper and it's spiritual, and that is that evil feeds on hate. They want more hate. So and what's evil? How do we know if something's evil? Well, by its fruits.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Is this someone who's lying, angry, promoting violence, chaos, division? That's evil. I mean, that's literally the definition of evil, and good is its opposite. It's unity, peace, happiness, love, order, cleanliness, or whatever. You know?

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

It's it's the the virtues are really obvious. The sins are really obvious. And so evil feeds on hate. They want more hate. So I look at someone like Mark Levin, who was a guy I used to know.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Know what? I've never had strong feelings about the guy one or other. He's all into Israel. Whatever. I don't care.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Be all into Israel. I was never against Israel. I'm still not really that against Israel, but whatever. I watch Mark Levin, like, go down this path where he's, like, crazed. He's crazed.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

It's almost like he's being attacked by bees or something. Like, there's no peace in that man at all. I can't imagine what his I'm not being mean. I'm being sincere. That guy works tirelessly to make people hate him.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Same with rabbi butt plugs. Same with a bunch of these people you see on the Internet where it's like, what? Is this guy trying to win people over? Just the opposite. He's trying to alienate them.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

He's trying to make people hate him. Why? Because that's the nature of evil. It feeds on hate, and goodness feeds on love. And you're around if you're around a decent, honest person, you just feel this, like, warmth and attraction and calm.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Right? You feel this around?

Theo Von
Theo Von

For sure. And I think you have to trust your own guiding light at a certain point.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

A 100 at at every point. Of what is Every point.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Good and what is not.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

You but you know it. I don't even think like, we're so past rational argument. I mean, I've proven that by, like, every week dutifully doing the actually, I'm against antisemitism. I hate antisemitism. Shut up, Hitler.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Obviously, we're not at a point, sadly, in our history where rational debate makes any difference at all. They don't care.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Yeah.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Charlie Kirk dedicated his life to it. They shot him in the neck. Like, they don't they're not interested. They're not winnable. We're at a stage where the only thing you can trust is the is God, the love of other people, and your own God given instincts.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

That is it.

Theo Von
Theo Von

That's the guide, period. Yeah. I mean, you have to really lock in your pilot light of what do you feel like is right and wrong.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Exactly. Don't you think you know it too?

Theo Von
Theo Von

I think at this point you have to trust that more than You trust it.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Exactly. But the knowledge is preexisting. Like, it's already in you. You know. You're like, your dog doesn't need to be told who hates him.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

The dog's like, you know, he barks at the people who hate him. He knows, and he doesn't lie to himself. Yeah. Do you feel that?

Theo Von
Theo Von

Oh, I think we've been lying to ourselves or we've been passive about evil showing up in our world, I think. Yes. I definitely believe that. And some of the things I wanna talk about for sure. I mean, I saw this list, and I'm like, well, first of all, miss Rachel's on it.

Theo Von
Theo Von

That's when they lost me. I was like, what are you guys doing? If miss Rachel has to come out because she was obviously, anti the war in Gaza, anti the genocide, and we've spoken up about it. I mean, there's no doubt in my heart and mind that it's a genocide. People can have other thoughts that they want, and that's fine.

Theo Von
Theo Von

I I if you have your thoughts, that's great. I'm glad that you do. It just seems like that is a wrong thing. There was not a lot of question about it for me. Like, I learned about the history of the land, and then I was like, this well, this is just wrong.

Theo Von
Theo Von

There's no reason that these, children have to be getting killed, that that they're experimenting with different weapons and different tactics, on this kind of, like, basically, this this imprisoned group over there. And then when they when I saw this and then miss Rachel, I was like, what are we doing? Like, what do you need Bert and Ernie to come out and say that it's a genocide? Like, at what point do people not trust what they're seeing anymore? I think I'm kind of a that that that's the part that's made me think sometimes, like, I'm in this weird blender or aquarium.

Theo Von
Theo Von

It's like Yep. It's like, should more people speak up? Have not an like, it almost like, why do you feel crazy for speaking up? Like, it just should feel like there's more. But then it's not my place to think that somebody else should feel the same way or should feel okay about sharing stuff.

Theo Von
Theo Von

And it gets kind of scary, you know? It definitely gets super scary, you know? Why? I think because, you know, I think you don't know the you don't really know what's going on. I think that's what it is.

Theo Von
Theo Von

And if they would just say, hey. America is a country that's owned by Israel or that, it's always been just this, outpost or it's this LLC of Israel or it's this or of this or maybe not even of Israel. It could just be of corporate entities. I'm not really sure exactly. But if they would just tell us, then you can operate from a place of knowing what's going on.

Theo Von
Theo Von

But for some reason, there's this weird secretiveness about stuff. And when things are secret, it feels evil because it feels like it's in the dark. Right? And and then when you see, like, we're watching people dying and kids dying, and it's supposed to feel like it's just in with the next reel and the next trend dance or whatever, it's just it all becomes it all becomes confusing. And so those are moments where you do have to lock in, you know, just prayer, asking God, what am I supposed to do?

Theo Von
Theo Von

Just trusting, like, the part inside of yourself that, you feel like you've developed over time that's that's that's honest, I guess, or just trying to trust your heart. You know?

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

don't know.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Does that make any sense even?

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Not only does it make sense, it's so beautifully expressed. Yes. It makes perfect sense. And I think a lot of people watch I'll speak for myself. I've been brooding on this because my whole job is to try and find out what's happening and then explain it.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

And it's just an endless series of frustrating cul de sacs where you're like, why can't we know this, that, the other thing, I mean, whatever the story is. And in the last two weeks, I feel like I've gotten closer to understanding what's actually going on. And of course I could be completely wrong, but I'm not. And it's made me so much happier because the conclusion I've sort of let go of a lot of my frustration and fear because I've realized that we already know exactly what this is. Don't know a lot of the details, know, could be wrong about this or that, you know.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

But big picture, we know exactly what's going on. And I think at this point that if all the information on all these different threads, whatever it is, especially the murders, not just the recent murders or attempted murders, but the more historical ones, If all the relevant information came out tomorrow, would we be surprised? No, we wouldn't. We know what's up actually. And there's enough evidence, but also our instincts tell us just by watching, what is this?

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

And I agree with you completely, it's not just about Israel, this country, it's about whether or not self government actually exists. Do any of these countries have a system where the people decide who their leaders are and what the country should do collectively. Not really. Or it's more complex than that. Yes, I think elections are to some extent real and all that, but in the end, the big decisions are made not by nations or kings or presidents or whatever we imagine.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

They're made by, you know, the world's richest people. And I no. I don't think that's an ethnic group. It's not code language for the Jews. It's it's what it seems to be.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

It's the people with the biggest stake in this who have the most to gain and the most to lose are never gonna leave the big decisions to, like, three ZIP codes in Pennsylvania. Like, come on now.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Come on now. Yeah.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Come on, son. Like, you know that that's true. And I'm not saying by the way, I'm not claiming, you know, the all elections are totally rigged or whatever. The source code belongs to Maduro. I'm not making any specific claims like that because I don't know if they're true or not.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

But I know the big picture. If we we know that Kennedy was pushing up against some forbidden things, and that's why he was killed. And who killed him? Well, it's not it's too easy to say it was this group or that group or this group. It was all those groups acting in concert or parts of those groups acting in concert.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Course. That's all of what this is. Right? Do you feel that?

Theo Von
Theo Von

I I I like what you said about, if all the pieces came out, would you be that surprised? Like, if they laid the cards completely out. Epstein, for example.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

You know, the one that everyone's. Right. I feel

Theo Von
Theo Von

like that whole thing is is some sort of a I think there's some there's definitely stuff there, but then also it's been such a kickball and a ruse for so long. Yeah. It's like both political parties had a chance to put it out or to get none of these people are operating on our behalf. That's what it feels like.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Well, that's kind of the truth that I'm talking about. That's what we would learn.

Theo Von
Theo Von

That's what's scary. It feels like came out. If we had it feels like well, so many of us believe and have believed and have forefathers that have spilt their blood and risked their lives and have friends who are enlisted now to protect this thing that I feel like we this idea of America. Yes. And then that idea has gotten super blurry in the past few years.

Theo Von
Theo Von

It has. And especially at a time when I think a lot of people like there's a lot of fears with, like, technology in the future and not knowing, like where we're gonna find our sense of purpose. Right? That's a big thing that we talk about on this show a lot of our time is like, you know, where, well, where do you find your sense of purpose? And people find it a lot of times in their job, through their family, in their country, through their, religion, through their faith.

Theo Von
Theo Von

So, you know, some of those start to go away, and some of those even look blurrier for the future, almost like it's like, Marty McFly when he looks at that picture, it looks like he doesn't even exist. Yes. You know? And so it starts to make you think like, you know, if if more of our purpose disappears and our traditions are challenged by media over the years, that they're not that they're wrong or they're racist or they're this or they're that, then you kind of end up with just, I don't know. It makes you feel like, well, what do I end up even what even is the value of me at a certain point?

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

I have an answer. I have the answer. Okay.

Theo Von
Theo Von

And I don't also wanna sound too dour. Like, I'm also looking at it from that perspective.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Speaking for millions of people when you say this. Like, everyone can feel I think people feel exactly what you're saying. And I

Theo Von
Theo Von

still also feel like a lot of moments of hope of, like, you know, like, okay. So I focus on my family. I focus on my friends. I focus on, doing something nice for someone. I focus on somebody else other than myself.

Theo Von
Theo Von

You know, I do those things that do give you feelings of meaning and purpose. Right? So anyway, I'm not trying to be like a Debbie Downer, but go on.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

I think just the opposite. And by the way, I just wanna amplify what you just said because that is the answer. And then those aren't just feelings of meaning and purpose, that's the definition of meaning and purpose, is to love the people around you, not people you've never met, not abstract concepts, communism, fascism, Zionism, whatever your ideology is. No, it's people. That's what it means to live a meaningful life is to serve other people.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

And by other people, I mean people who are physically present, who are connected to you in organic ways, like your relatives, your friends, your coworkers, your roommates, the people God puts in your path. Those are the people you love. Your waitress. That's what it really means to love people. So that's number one, always.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Love the people around you. Whenever I run into people like, I just want to save the world or I want come up with a new system to make everyone happy forever. We're going to call it whatever we're calling it. Ketamine. Ketamine.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Ketamine.

Theo Von
Theo Von

And that's bailing out. There's people falling asleep at the car wash. They just had a guy. He fell asleep in there.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Yeah. Well, those of us who've already been down the drug path are a little skeptical of being saved by drugs.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Oh, for sure. But it's also dangerous. Those brush some of those brushes are sharp in there. Like, I fucking fell asleep in that car wash. He was in for two cycles.

Theo Von
Theo Von

He had that sedan that went through, and finally, someone in backseat saw him on the side. That dude was in there getting polished up.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

You know? He was a ketamine cashier.

Theo Von
Theo Von

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Theo Von
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Theo Von
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Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Man, I thought I had I've never done ketamine, but but I do think okay. So the first purpose is to love the people around you in your immediate orbit, and the second purpose is to tell the truth. So the short, the one sentence description of the whole thing that you just laid out, the way you're feeling, is that we are discovering that we actually don't have control over anything big happening. We have no control. Right.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

And all this shit, all these systems that we've created and cherished and believed in and died for, as you said, were all in some sense illusory. They were fake because they gave us the false impression that we have control, whether it's over our government or the future or whatever. We don't have any control. We are on a commercial airliner in a thunderstorm. Okay?

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

That's just what it is. And if you're in 17 B, you have no control over whether the plane lands safely or crashes. You just don't. You have no control. We have to metabolize that, like accept that.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

And once you do, there's total freedom in that. I actually can't protect myself really. As we say in my family, our family motto is there is no safety, there's only destiny. There is no safety, there's only destiny. And that's like the deepest truth of life.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

We're not the authors of our lives, we can't really control that much about them except a couple of things. Do we love the people around us, and do we tell the truth? And if you wanna prepare yourself for the turmoil that's only going to accelerate, this is all obvious, all of us can feel the reason we're also freaking anxious is we can feel this is the prelude to, like, real turbulence. Like, every person. Dogs can feel a thunderstorm coming three hours out.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

We can feel that.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Oh, yeah. You'll see your neighbors doing circles in

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

the yard. Percent, dude. And that's exactly we are the German shepherds starting to freak out in the backyard because the weather's coming, and we can't see it. But they can feel it, and we can all feel that. So how do you protect yourself?

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Obviously, buy gold, stash ammo. I believe in all that. But really what you need to do is make yourself strong inside by collecting your people close to you, staying in close touch with them, and telling the truth because telling the truth gives you spiritual power. The more you tell the truth, the more you are filled with supernatural power. You become invulnerable, to the extent a human being can be.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

I'm telling the truth, and I don't care if you kill me. I really don't care because what I'm saying is real, and it will outlive me. If you get into that habit, the exercise of just being honest

Theo Von
Theo Von

Mhmm.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

As much as you can be, of course, you're a human being, you'll lie all the fucking time because you can't help it. But if you keep doing that, you'll be filled with a spiritual power that is stronger than any other power.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Do you believe that our country is compromised?

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Do I believe it's compromised?

Theo Von
Theo Von

Yeah. Yeah. I do. Do you believe that it's reversible?

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

You know, I believe so. I mean, again, I'm so old. I'm 56, so like, I just grew up believing in everything. You know?

Theo Von
Theo Von

You're younger than Leanne Morgan? We just had her in here. Really? Have you ever listened to her?

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

No. Oh my gosh. She seem old?

Theo Von
Theo Von

No. She's great, dude. Both of you guys look great. Really?

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

She's older than I am?

Theo Von
Theo Von

Yeah. She told me she was, unless she was lying.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

I don't believe her. There's that new thing. A lot of women do that. They pretend to be a lot older. That's like the true Jedi move for a woman to be like, actually, I'm 61.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Like, a conventional woman always be like, actually, I'm 29, but the really smart ones will be like, I'm almost 70.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Yes. That's how they do it. I think

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

it's Right.

Theo Von
Theo Von

She's a wonderful, beautiful comedian, and she's hilarious. But, anyway, she was a senior, but she's 60 years old. Both of

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

y'all She uses nicotine. Great.

Theo Von
Theo Von

I bet she does she did smoke, she said, in college.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Yes. See, look what it did for her.

Theo Von
Theo Von

And she wears tight bras because she says it keeps her awake. So I love her. Yeah, do you think it's like and I guess that's a big question. And, also, going back to what you said a little bit ago, like you said, but then I look at the history of time, and it's like people have always been under the thumb of some type of rule, haven't they?

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Of course.

Theo Von
Theo Von

And so for us to be like I mean, it's weird. It's like part of you, it's like you're supposed don't be a baby about it. You know? Like, you're just being a Right. Like, there's some sort of oppression.

Theo Von
Theo Von

And even as people that can feed themselves, we're not as oppressed as so many other people

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Yeah.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Or people that if they turn on the light, they're afraid it's gonna activate a bomb in the corner of their room.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Had dinner with a guy who works for us last night, literally last night. And he said, where are you where are you born? He goes, I was born in Eritrea, but I I grew up in a Sudanese refugee camp. I came to The United States. He's an amazing guy and a wonderful, wonderful guy.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

But I was like, gosh. You know? I'm really I'm from La Jolla. Right. It's like stop whining.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Dude, this is my internal dialogue. Stop whining. Stop whining. I had

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

to fly Southwest yesterday. Oh, no one's something more than me.

Theo Von
Theo Von

Yeah. La Jolla. But La Jolla is for sure the lap of luxury of America.

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson

Oh, yeah. And almost every single childhood friend