Joe Rogan Experience #2517 - Taylor Sheridan
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It takes about 19 gallons of water to produce one almond.
AZT was discontinued as a cancer medication because it was too deadly.
AZT killed people faster than cancer killed people.
Some estimates said COVID-19 PCR testing produced 80% false positives.
The man who killed a Minnesota politician and her husband said Minnesota Governor Tim Walz sent him to kill them.
Most European immigrants who landed in Texas in the 19th century were heading to Oregon.
Politicians implicated in ABSCAM were Soviet spies.
The Rockefellers founded the modern public education system as a means to create workers.
California's high-speed rail project has one mile of completed track.
A New York Times article reported that one person gathered 135,000 signatures for the proposed Oregon animal-cruelty law.
Almonds contained strychnine before domestication.
Four Sixes Ranch has 12 cowboys.
Four Sixes Ranch is 300,000 acres.
People in Havana experiencing Havana syndrome were targeted by low frequencies that made them nauseous.
Nancy Pelosi has a net worth of $400 million.
Nancy Pelosi passed legislation that allowed Visa to go public.
Members of the United States Congress are paid $175,000 a year.
All members of the United States Congress are millionaires.
Anthony Fauci prevented AIDS patients from getting alternative medications.
AZT had already been approved as a cancer medication before it was used as an HIV/AIDS medication.
AZT was a chemotherapy medication.
Kary Mullis said PCR testing is not supposed to be used to detect a disease in a person's body.
Anthony Fauci used the phrase "safe and effective" to describe AZT as a medication for HIV.
California is not receiving record numbers of new residents.
Regenokine involves spinning a patient’s blood in a centrifuge for about 10 hours.
Ibogaine has no recreational use.
A single dose of ibogaine can end addiction for a large percentage of people.
Rick Perry has used ibogaine.
Tim Pool began his journalism career by reporting from war zones.
Investigators found pathogen-labeled containers labeled "malaria" in the Las Vegas biolab investigation.
Investigators found 1,200 samples in the Las Vegas biolab investigation.
California Governor Gavin Newsom vetoed an audit of California homelessness spending.
The United States has 91 million cattle.
Billions of bees are brought from Brazil to pollinate avocado and almond crops.
Four major beef packing companies control more than 90% of the beef industry.
About 40% of the world's oil supply passes through the Strait of Hormuz.
Donald Trump claimed the Discombobulator disabled radar during the January 3 operation to capture Nicolás Maduro.
COVID-19 came from a lab in Wuhan, China.
A study on the CDC website stated that ivermectin has antiviral efficacy against COVID-19.
Anthony Fauci had attorneys contact Joe Biden's team about a pardon on Biden's last day in office.
Anthony Fauci wanted AIDS patients to take AZT.
Stem cell injections into spinal discs make spinal discs thicker.
Stem cell injections into spinal discs cause spinal discs to regenerate tissue.
Two doses of ibogaine are significantly more effective for addiction treatment than one dose.
Ibogaine is effective for treating PTSD.
Marcus Luttrell had a drinking problem.
Dick Proenneke lived in his Alaska cabin for 35 years.
People who are lost tend to walk in counterclockwise loops.
No Americans were killed during a raid on a Venezuelan military base in Caracas.
Investigators found about 1,000 mice in the Las Vegas biolab investigation.
The federal government never tested the items found in the Las Vegas biolab investigation.
Some sportsbooks had Justin Gaethje as a 6-to-1 underdog against Ilia Topuria.
Horses with white facial markings extending above the eyes are typically deaf.
California's high-speed rail project has cost $100 billion.
Almonds were one of the first domesticated plants.
President Donald Trump claimed U.S. forces used a classified weapon system called the Discombobulator during a January 3 operation to capture Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro.
Tulsi Gabbard gave a press conference about Anthony Fauci while serving as director of national intelligence.
Regenokine is an advanced form of platelet-rich plasma.
Regenokine involves heating a patient’s blood to body temperature to trigger production of a natural anti-inflammatory protein called IL1.
Many U.S. veterans travel to Costa Rica for ibogaine retreats.
A local schoolboy found dinosaur tracks at Dinosaur Valley State Park in 1908.
Whether a person is left-handed or right-handed does not affect the tendency to walk counterclockwise when lost.
People in the 1800s often spent one to three hours at a stretch writing letters.
ABSCAM took place in the 1970s.
Ory Solomon was charged only with illegal possession of a firearm in Nevada.
Wild Pastures meat costs around 25% to 40% less than comparable quality meat in stores.
Ibogaine has neuroregenerative properties.
Heimo Korth saw a photograph of the September 11 attacks years after the attacks happened.
The United States has an 80-something percent recidivism rate.
California spent $24 billion on homelessness programs.
A proposed Oregon animal-cruelty law would ban agriculture.
Almonds contain roughly 4 milligrams of oxalate per nut.
Cattle in feed yards are fed for 90 to 150 days before slaughter.
Texas A&M has a ranch management program.
Tulsi Gabbard alleged that Anthony Fauci used U.S. taxpayer funds to fund gain-of-function research through EcoHealth Alliance.
EcoHealth Alliance funded research related to COVID-19.
A Minnesota politician who was murdered had voted against providing Medicare to undocumented immigrants.
A man in Alaska was stomped to death by a moose after throwing snowballs at the moose.
Researchers were working on anti-gravity technology in the 1960s.
A mayor of Arcadia, California, was a Chinese spy.
ABSCAM involved state representatives.
Wild Pastures works only with small family-run regenerative farms in the United States.
Eating almonds can raise oxalate levels in the blood.
Almonds contain about 296 milligrams of oxalate per 100 grams.
Cooking kale reduces its oxalate content.
Vlad the Impaler inspired the character Dracula.
Nancy Pelosi received Visa stock when Visa went public.
AZT was given to asymptomatic people who tested HIV positive.
Joy Reid questioned whether people should trust a vaccine created under Donald Trump during Donald Trump's presidency.
Elon Musk said on the Joe Rogan podcast that Medicaid and Medicare fraud is one of the biggest problems.
An ibogaine psychedelic experience lasts about 24 hours.
Heimo Korth shot a grizzly bear that tried to steal his food stash.
Göbekli Tepe was intentionally covered up more than 11,000 years ago.
By the 1880s, Native American tribes were largely not an issue for westward migrants.
Heavy correspondents in the 1800s could spend several hours most days writing letters.
David He faces federal charges for allegedly manufacturing misbranded medical devices.
Federal prosecutors dropped the case against Ory Solomon in the Las Vegas biolab investigation.
A proposed Oregon animal-cruelty law would ban fishing.
A proposed Oregon animal-cruelty law would ban ranching.
Wild Pastures delivers 100% grass-fed and grass-finished beef to customers' doors.
Oxalates cause many kidney stones in some people.
Each cowboy at Four Sixes Ranch is responsible for 35,000 to 50,000 acres.
Donald Trump stated that the Discombobulator disabled enemy equipment during the January 3 operation to capture Nicolás Maduro.
Donald Trump stated that the Discombobulator disabled enemy air defenses during the January 3 operation to capture Nicolás Maduro.
Donald Trump referred to a sonic weapon being used against Nicolás Maduro's Cuban security detail inside a heavily fortified fortress.
Emperor Hirohito announced Japan's surrender after the United States dropped two nuclear bombs on Japan.
The U.S. military used a hearts and minds strategy in Vietnam.
Masked police with no identification have detained people during ICE raids in U.S. cities.
Some American citizens have been detained during ICE raids and later released.
Tulsi Gabbard alleged that Anthony Fauci used U.S. taxpayer funds to fund gain-of-function research through a lab in Wuhan, China.
Joe Biden gave Anthony Fauci a preemptive pardon on Biden's last day in office.
Rand Paul questioned Anthony Fauci about the definition of gain-of-function research.
Kary Mullis invented PCR testing.
Kary Mullis publicly said Anthony Fauci did not know what he was talking about.
Kamala Harris questioned whether people should trust a vaccine created under Donald Trump during Donald Trump's presidency.
Elon Musk said he was looking into Medicaid and Medicare fraud with DOGE.
Regenokine treatment focuses on blocking the inflammatory protein interleukin-1.
Cellular Performance Institute has injected stem cells into people’s spinal discs.
A lethal amount of fentanyl can be small enough to be shown next to a penny.
Fentanyl is mixed into cocaine.
A Texas ibogaine initiative supported by Rick Perry aims to make ibogaine more accessible to veterans.
Ibogaine comes from the iboga tree in Africa.
Ibogaine is a potent psychedelic.
Rick Perry has said promoting ibogaine is his main focus in life.
Many U.S. veterans travel to Mexico for ibogaine retreats.
Marcus Luttrell used ibogaine.
Dick Proenneke documented his Alaska cabin life with a Super 8 camera.
Dick Proenneke was in his 80s when he left his Alaska cabin.
Dick Proenneke built his Alaska cabin when he was 51.
Heimo Korth has lived in a cabin near the Arctic Circle in Alaska since the 1970s.
Heimo Korth is grandfathered into living in his Alaska cabin.
Göbekli Tepe in Turkey contains immense structures that are about 11,800 years old.
Dinosaurs existed for hundreds of millions of years.
Dinosaur tracks at Dinosaur Valley State Park are attributed to Acrocanthosaurus.
Scientists once thought people crossed the Bering Land Bridge into the Americas about 12,000 to 14,000 years ago.
The first scientifically recorded dinosaur bone was described in 1677.
The dinosaur bone described in 1677 was thought to belong to a giant human.
The exact cause of humans' subtle left-turn bias while walking is unclear.
Scientists studying social distancing during the COVID-19 pandemic observed that pedestrians preferred moving counterclockwise.
Mossad detonated communication devices that had been sold to its enemies years earlier.
Mossad built a dummy company to sell communication devices to its enemies.
Drone operators in Nevada can fly drones halfway around the world.
Russian agents have pretended to be American citizens.
The FBI laboratory concluded that the community could not be harmed by the contents of the Las Vegas biolab.
Investigators found a possible biological laboratory in a garage in Las Vegas.
Police said the home in the Las Vegas biolab investigation operated as an unlicensed short-term rental.
Investigators found pathogen-labeled containers labeled "HIV" in the Las Vegas biolab investigation.
Investigators found pathogen-labeled containers labeled "dengue fever" in the Las Vegas biolab investigation.
The CDC made its determination about the Las Vegas biolab items based only on the labeling.
David He is a Chinese citizen.
David He faces federal charges for allegedly distributing misbranded medical devices.
David He does not face charges connected to the Las Vegas raid.
Ory Solomon's immigration status precluded him from possessing a gun.
Reports said Ilia Topuria had two broken orbital bones after fighting Justin Gaethje.
Humans have a subtle left-turn bias while walking.
Shane Van Boening uses hearing aids.
Pool player Shane Van Boening is deaf.
California's mountain lion wildlife crossing over a highway costs more than $100 million.
A proposed Oregon animal-cruelty law would ban hunting.
Wild Pastures delivers wild-caught seafood to customers' doors.
Wild Pastures delivers pasture-raised pork and chicken to customers' doors.
Almonds are a high-oxalate food.
Eating almonds may increase kidney stone risk in susceptible people.
Texas Tech has a ranch management program.
Colorado State University has a veterinary school for large-animal veterinarians.
Donald Trump claimed the Discombobulator disabled Russian-made rockets during the January 3 operation to capture Nicolás Maduro.
Donald Trump told the New York Post that he was not allowed to discuss details about how the Discombobulator functions.
Donald Trump claimed Venezuelan defense forces pressed buttons that did not work during the January 3 operation to capture Nicolás Maduro.
Tulsi Gabbard was director of national intelligence.
Tulsi Gabbard alleged that Anthony Fauci lied before Congress.
Visible wireless service is powered by Verizon's 5G network.
Visible wireless plans start at $25 a month.
The United States government funded EcoHealth Alliance.
Anthony Fauci told Rand Paul, "You do not know what you are talking about," during questioning about gain-of-function research.
No court has found Anthony Fauci committed criminal conduct.
No court has found Anthony Fauci committed perjury.
Anthony Fauci worked in the federal government for about 50 years.
Anthony Fauci used the phrase "safe and effective" to describe COVID-19 vaccines.
The man who killed a Minnesota politician and her husband also shot other people.
Barack Obama made a public statement about going after government fraud while he was president.
Dana White flew to Germany to receive Regenokine treatment.
Regenokine involves injecting protein-rich serum directly into a painful joint or tissue.
Hydrogel injections into spinal discs are not widely performed.
Hydrogel injections into spinal discs are experimental.
The Sackler family members did not go to jail for their role in the opioid crisis.
The Sackler family generated billions of dollars from opioids.
Rick Perry is pushing an ibogaine initiative in Texas.
Bryan Hubbard is pushing an ibogaine initiative in Texas.
The film Lone Survivor is based on Marcus Luttrell's experiences in Afghanistan.
Dakota Meyer has used ibogaine.
Dick Proenneke's cabin was at Twin Lakes in Lake Clark National Park.
Göbekli Tepe contains circular arrangements of giant stone columns with animal carvings.
At least four hominin species lived at the same time at some point in prehistory.
Dinosaur Valley State Park is in Glen Rose, Texas.
Dinosaur tracks at Dinosaur Valley State Park are 113 million years old.
Footprints found at White Sands in New Mexico are 22,000 years old.
Blindfolded people asked to walk straight without landmarks tend to curve into large loops instead of walking in a straight line.
A helicopter crashed during the raid that killed Osama bin Laden.
Some drones can be pre-programmed to fly autonomously.
ABSCAM involved members of Congress.
Investigators found refrigerators with vials containing unknown liquids inside a garage in the Las Vegas biolab investigation.
Ory Solomon was arrested in the Las Vegas biolab investigation.
Simon & Schuster gave the authors of How to Not Die in Prison a book deal.
Khabib Nurmagomedov said Justin Gaethje hit him harder than anybody else.
Shane Van Boening has won the U.S. Open Pool Championship five times.
Earl Strickland has won the U.S. Open Pool Championship five times.
Militant groups have used children as suicide bombers.
TCU has a ranch management program.
The United States dropped two nuclear bombs on Japan in World War II.
Rand Paul is a doctor.
Rand Paul is an ophthalmologist.
Anthony Fauci served under President Donald Trump.
Cellular Performance Institute is located in Tijuana.
Rick Perry is a former Republican governor of Texas.
Dick Proenneke built a cabin by hand in the Alaska wilderness.
Timothy Dalton portrayed James Bond.
Predator drones can carry Hellfire missiles.
Justin Gaethje was a Division I All-American wrestler.
How to Not Die in Prison is available as an audiobook.
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>> What's up, buddy? >> That's a hell of a [ __ ] bell puckle. >> What is that? What is that? What's going on there? >> So, this one is uh for a horse I have
called Maverick Buzz the Tower that won reserve at the Futurity. >> And they give you a bellbuckle if you win >> a belt buckle and money. That's a dope
bell buckle. >> Expensive belt buckle. >> So guys like you that understand horses, like if you saw someone with one of those, you would know exactly what that
is right away. >> Oh yeah. And the year, depending on the year, I'm I'm going to know the horse. >> It's like you fighter. It's like you had fighters,
>> I guess. I guess it's probably similar. Yeah. >> Oh, that guy won the thing in 2012. He fought so and so and that's the same with me and horses. It's always so
interesting to me how these there's these different sort of categories of interest that people have that you know one person might not know anything I don't know anything about horses but
you're like [ __ ] balls deep you know [ __ ] everything about it's crazy >> it's such an interesting like pool of knowledge the the people that are really into horses and they start explaining
you like oh this is not as simple as >> oh that's a horse and that's a horse too like there's genetic lines and there's certain tendencies that certain horses actually pass on to their offspring.
>> Oh yeah, >> it's crazy stuff. >> There's a stallion and I really like him. I've got a number of horses by the st and his name's Spook's got a whiz and
and they're just incredibly balanced, real feely, very very quickfooted, big stoppers, but they they see dead people. They see ghosts. So like >> what?
>> Once every 3 months for no reason, this thing's going to [ __ ] check out. And I mean, check out just decide it's not safe here. We're going back to the barn. You can come with me or I'm gonna buck
your ass off or I'm gonna flip over. No, he just loses his mind. >> Whoa. >> And you never know when it's going to happen.
>> And his children have this as well. >> Yeah. >> Whoa. >> Just a little quirk. >> And that's but other than that,
they'reing automatic. >> That's a big quirk. That's like if you have a Corvette and it decides to drive home. >> Yeah. A little bit. A little bit.
>> Most of the time you can go to the store. We all deal with it cuz they're worth it, >> I guess. But that seems so crazy. The horsey. Do you really think it sees
ghosts? >> It he I don't know what he sees. Some kind of boogeyman. They're a lot of them are deaf. So >> really?
>> Yeah. >> Why? >> So Well, there's a there's a a gene. Typically, if you see a horse with a white face and the white goes above the
eyes, typically that horse is deaf. >> Wow. >> And so they can't hear, but they can feel the vibrations. So like that that could that could set one
of those horses off. >> Just anything pounding on the ground that might be something chasing it. >> Yeah. I mean they're prey animals. >> Right. Right. Right.
>> So >> wow. The deaf thing is crazy. I wonder if that has any sort of an advantage where they could sort of tune out distractions.
You know, I would imagine if a horse is at a rodeo. >> Yes, 100%. Because you know this crowds are screaming and yelling it's not going to bother them. Now, if they start
stomping their feet, I was going to show this one horse of mine and I'm about to run in the pen and all these guys are cheering for this Italian rider and they're all beating on the side of the
arena. >> Oh. >> And my horse checked the [ __ ] out. >> He checked the [ __ ] out. >> Like a whole herd of elephants.
>> Wow. I could imagine how weird that is for the horse. Like it's being told to do something, but its instincts are like, "No, we got to get the [ __ ] out of here. I can't hear anything.
>> That's nuts. >> The hearing thing. There's a a a famous pool player. His name is Shane Van Boning. He's like one of the greatest pool players of all time, if not the
greatest. And he's deaf. And he has hearing aids. And when he plays, he shuts him off. He just goes click >> and goes into this world, >> the zone
>> just of balls and geometry and just doesn't miss. Just he's a horrifying person to play. And because the fact that he's got that extra sense shut off, like the hearing, he can shut it off.
It's not just that. I mean, he's also obsessive. He practices 10 hours a day. I He's a all-time wizard. >> Like he's won the US Open, which is the hardest tournament to win in all of
pool. He's won it five times, >> which is just not There's only one other guy in history, Earl Strickland, that's won it five times. >> Everybody plays pool. Like everybody a
little. Yeah. But then the levels to the game, like you start getting a professional pool player. >> Yeah. >> And they're playing a totally different
game. >> It's a totally different at just watching it, you realize like, oh my god, what am I doing? I'm hitting the ball way too hard. I don't know what I'm
doing. My angles are all [ __ ] up. Like this guy's playing that with English. I would have just hit it straight. >> You watch a spin, a back spin, it hits over here and the it's just
>> it's the control of the ball. It's just like they're part of the the stick is the part of their body. The stick and the ball, they're all connected in space and time and they know where that ball's
going within millimeters. It's it's nuts to watch. Like some of these guys, they'll hit a ball and it'll travel, it's a 9 foot table. It'll travel all the [ __ ] away around the It's like a 12t
distance and it'll go in a 2-in spot and you just go, "Fuck me." It's crazy. And then if you do that and you're deaf, too. Like you don't even hear the cheers. You're just still in
the zone. >> Just hyperfocused. >> Yeah. Just hyperfocused. Autism probably helps too if you have that. >> Yeah.
>> You know, little little >> Oh, yeah. Just a touch of >> I got a little I think >> I think anybody's good at anything >> anybody's good at anything is either
ADHD or autistic. >> Yeah. >> They tried to give me medicine for the ADHD. >> Did they?
>> Yeah. I'm like, "Fuck no." >> How old were you when they tried to give it to you? >> Oh, when I Well, they did give it to me when I was a kid.
>> Really? >> Yeah. What? they give you >> and then you're who knows but whatever you're little bottomized right and then [ __ ]
>> and so I stopped taking it just cuz I was now you're just like >> you know and so my parents were like [ __ ] it just let him run around let him >> my neighbor's kid they gave it to him
when I when I lived in California it was such a bummer he was this wild little kid and they gave it to him and all a sudden he was flat >> Yep.
>> And I was like and the lady was like oh he's on medication now because he's hyperactive. I'm like, "Oh my god, not my kid. Not my place. I'm not saying nothing.
>> I just go to work." You know, I was single back then and I was like 28 or 29. And I just I was just so confused how you could do that. And I kept thinking like if somebody did that to me
when I was a kid, [ __ ] for sure I would have been on drugs. Yeah. >> If my parents knew about those options, they could shut me the [ __ ] up. If I had the wrong parent, my parents wouldn't
have done it, but if I had the wrong parents, 100% I had all the traits that would have allowed me to get on rin or whatever. superpower if you understand it. It's a superpower.
>> Yeah. If you could find something you love. >> People People say, "How in the world can you write a script? You write all these things." Like it's not that hard. Like
once I know what it is, I can sit You could sit me in an airport around a thousand people. I won't hear them and I can sit there for 12 hours straight
>> cuz you love it. >> I just get I just hyperfocus. >> But if somebody wants you to pay attention to the history of Pop-Tarts or something, it's not going in there.
physically can't do it. >> Yeah. It's not going in there. >> Yeah. That's that's the superpower. The superpower is you could find something you love and focus on it. But
>> the way our education system is designed is so ass backwards. You take kids that are so energetic and they have so much life and you just squeeze it out of them. Just sit still, stay put, listen
to boring [ __ ] And all day they're just fighting this desire to scream and just run out of the building and go do something fun. Wasn't the um like essentially what we call the modern
public education system founded by or really by the Rockefellers as a as a means to create workers. >> Yep. Yep. >> Like that's it.
>> Compliant workers and soldiers >> conform. Just one of the reasons why they decided to start school so early for kids is the earlier you can start them, the more you can get them to do
whatever you want them to do. And the more you can get them to pledge allegiance and get really excited about this that or the other thing, including all the trans stuff that you see in
school, all the pride stuff. And teachers are working with preschool kids and they're talking about sexuality and you're like, they're [ __ ] six. Like they don't know what you're talking
like, why are you even talking to them about that? Because you can get them early and you can program those thoughts into their mind that this is a good cause. And it could be anything. It
could be your religion. It could be your political ideology. It could be being a Christian, being a Muslim, whatever. If you get kids young enough, you can talk them into doing almost anything. That's
why they have child suicide bombers. They don't try to get guys in their 40s with a family to strap a vest on. They try to get kids. >> Yeah. And you know what what'll really
bake a couple of noodles is if you look at because all these things are funded, all these nonprofits and NGOs's they're off, but where's the money come from? And when you look at where the money
comes from and you realize, oh wait a minute, and it's been coming for 40, 50 years from these places. Qatar for example, obviously Russia, China, all these our enemies
donating money to all of these various groups to divide to just eat away from the inside. >> Russia's been doing it since the 70s. >> Yeah. 60s.
>> 60s. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That uh Yuri Bezmanov, I'm sure you've seen that video. >> Anybody who hasn't, please watch it.
It's Yuri Bezmanov and it's in 1984. And this guy is essentially describing what America is going to look like eventually. And he's dead on. Just dead on. Dead on with the communism, the
Marxism, the stuff in the universities, just completely poison their mind. Push out any ideas of patriotism being a virtue. All the hate for America that you have, like all the division, all of
it engineered. Yeah. It's wild. >> Just look at who it benefits. That's it. That's it. It's real simple. >> Yeah. just look and see who it benefits. >> Well, it benefits a lot of people in
this country as well. Unfortunately, there's a lot of people that really love division and they can profit off of it and they can work work an angle. You know, we're with you. And this is a big
part of the problem with the whole idea of nonprofits because nonprofits in theory are awesome. It's a great thing that people are willing to donate their money. like wealthy people who are doing
well say, "You know what? I I think my money could be best suited helping out other people. It's beautiful. It's one of the most amazing notions about people when they can be charitable when they
don't have to be. They do it because they want to and they really want to help. Then you find out what's really going on and that the majority of the money is going to overhead and
employees." >> Well, think about this. If if I create a nonprofit to go solve Well, LA is a perfect example. We can look at the homeless situation that they have there
and all of these NOS's that are getting all of this money >> and the problem's getting worse. It's not getting better, >> right?
>> It's getting worse. But if I form an NGO and that's my cause and I solve the problem, well then what do I what do I do with my NGO? >> Exactly.
>> Now I got no money. Now there's no reason to give me money. So they they don't create them to solve problems. Anything exacerbate the problem. >> Make the problem worse. Make it longer.
Make it bigger. Look how big the problem is. We need more money. >> Some guy was doing a breakdown of the people that work in the homeless industry industry I say in air quotes in
California because that's really what it is. It's they spent $ 24 billion on the homeless problem and no one can account for it. And they they tried to get an accounting of it. They tried to do an
audit of it and Newsome vetoed it. Vetoed it. Like why would you want to know? Let's stop Let's stop all that nonsense and build this [ __ ] train track to nowhere that's never gonna get
built. >> Well, they have a mile of it. They have a mile of that train. >> Only cost a hundred billion dollars. Relax.
>> Like things take time. >> They have a [ __ ] mile. Well, we're trying to choose the path. How about right beside the I5? How about that? How about right next to the flat [ __ ]
highway? >> Everything they do sucks. Yeah. >> How about that stupid [ __ ] road over the highway to make sure the mountain lines are safe?
>> Yeah. It's like over hund00 million still not done. >> And they have them, by the way, that's not a new concept. They have those throughout the West. Yeah. And they
don't cost [ __ ] They don't cost much money at all. And they they fix them quick. They do it quick. >> It's just >> Yeah. They're done in a couple of
months. >> Yeah. Pour some cement, put some sod down, plant some [ __ ] grass, and away you go. >> Away you go.
>> But there but we're we're applying logic to a state that doesn't use that. It's it is a it's like it is as goofy as it gets and then you think it's as goofy as it gets and then you hear that Portland
just okay so this is going to be on the ballot in November. It got enough votes to be on the ballot and this is some law that's under the guise of stop animal cruelty. Well, who doesn't want to stop
animal cruelty? I certainly want to stop animal cruelty. Let's stop animal cruelty. So what does it mean? It means no hunting, no fishing, no ranching, no agriculture,
no animals that get harmed in any way. No killing chickens for Kentucky fried chicken, nothing. No animals die. And it's a city or [ __ ] vote. Oregon is voting on this in November.
>> No fishing. No fishing. What are you saying? Are you [ __ ] high? >> And and no so >> no hunting, no ranching. Ranching? You can't ranch? You going to kill a cow?
What? Are you crazy? That's illegal in Oregon. >> And here's that's probably sounds like a good idea to one of those people. And then but here's my question. All right,
so let's do it. Let's just say let's just outlaw ranching. Let's just say [ __ ] it. >> Well, there's 91 million cattle in the country. So what do we do with them? You
just leave them alone. Let nature take its course. >> Yeah, but but there's but they're not but there's no there's no nature to take its course.
>> It's 91 million head of [ __ ] cattle. And I can promise you this. If you outlaw me feeding them and taking care of them, I'm not going to then they're then they're wandering the highway.
>> Yeah. And then the bulls are out. >> Yeah. >> So you going to keep the bulls contained? No. The bulls are going to kill people.
>> Yeah. And and make more cattle and >> and make more cattle. >> Yeah. So now we have 900 million cattle in three decades. >> Yeah. And [ __ ] all your fences. Bulls
are going to smash them. Bulls are going to eat your grass. Bills are going to bulls are going to stomp your dog. Like what are you talking about?
>> It's I can't. >> But it's not supposed to be logical. It's all just a vibe, man. It's like and it's not even a wellthoughtout one. But the problem is you don't have to be well
thought out to get on the ballot. You just have to appeal to certain sensibilities and then all a sudden people are like, "Oh, that would be good. Let's stop animal cruelty."
>> And they're probably on SSRIs anyway. >> It it'll it'll probably pass. >> Nah. N I don't think it'll pass. >> According to this New York Times article, it was a guy one guy
>> one guy >> got 135,000 signatures and got it passed to that level. >> I wonder how many of them are homeless people. Um, he moved to Portland from
Denver from Southern California where I'm trying to >> do we have a photo of this dude? I want to see what this guy looks like. >> Show him. But it's
>> Of course he's from Southern California. >> Of course he is. He's a vegan. Oh, that's weird. I would have never guessed. >> Substitute teacher.
>> Oh, substitute teacher. >> Keeps getting better. >> I lost it. >> What else? >> That's all it was saying. They didn't
frame him very well. >> Well, it shouldn't. It's a crazy idea. There you go. Mickelson. >> Yeah. >> Substitute teacher, vegan, and petitions
organizer. >> It's to have a system where we're not killing or hurting animals anymore. I love how he said a system. What are you talking about? What does that mean?
What's a system? You're talking about nature. What are you talking about? Like they're going to kill each other, stupid. Like, what the [ __ ] are you talking about? Is it somehow another
less cruel with them when a mountain lion gets into a pen of sheep and tears them apart? >> Yeah. He figured the chance of meeting another
gay vegan were better in Portland. >> He's probably not wrong. >> Yeah, it's probably a good bet. >> Solid bet. >> Yeah.
>> Jesus. >> He was sitting there going, "Midland, Texas, Portland, Oregon. Where am I? Where you got to go to Portland? >> Go to Portland and take some medication.
Just [ __ ] have a good time." There he is. >> There we go. >> Hey, fella. >> Oh, he's already gotten too much
attention from us. Yeah, it's uh there's a lot of silly people in the world and you know like we were talking about with young people, if you get young people indoctrinated early enough to think
these silly ideas make sense, >> which is one of the reasons why I love that Kevin Cosner moment on your show when uh he had explained to that vegan lady.
>> Oh yeah, >> it's such a good moment. >> How cute does an animal have to be before you care if it [ __ ] lives? >> Yeah. And what the actual like what life
gets killed when you're just talking about farming just food. >> Plow in a field. >> Yeah. Just plowing a field or >> or go or go build a road.
>> You want to destroy some [ __ ] organisms, go build a road. >> Yeah. And if you're riding on those roads, >> you're in that system. And then there's
the bees. Like the amount of bees that die every year so we could have avocados is bananas. >> Yeah. bring them in from Brazil >> by the billions. By the billions by the
bee and they die bees and then on top the So it's avocados and almonds. Those are the two big ones, right? >> Yeah. Almonds. You know what's fascinating? And I'm going to We can
look it up. Almonds. The amount. It's something like 19 gallons of water is what you have to give to get one almond. >> Is that real? Yeah. Yeah, we can we can
Yeah, it's [ __ ] bananas. >> My doctor told me almonds aren't even good for you. >> Well, you know, it's >> he said they're okay for you. He said,
but you know, there's >> there was a time in the Mediterranean where they were they were poisonous. They have strict nine in them. And it's one of the first domesticated plants.
And what people realized, whoever homo sapiens or Neanderthalss, whoever's wandering around, they're like, "The squirrels are eating those poisonous nuts from that tree." Huh? They're okay
from this one, not okay from that one. >> So they started cutting down and uprooting all the ones where the squirrels wouldn't eat. >> Oh, interesting.
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>> Relatively waterintensive crop eachund gallons of water per pound. That's so crazy. >> And then, >> oh my god,
>> here's here's my new like look, I'm a writer, right? So words matter to me and when we when we misuse them in our society, it just bothers me, right? So >> all these things that we're calling
milk, like almond almond milk, >> right? >> And I'm and I'm just determined to call it almond juice because that's what it [ __ ] is. It's not even almond juice.
It's not like we're extracting. >> It's almond tea almost. We're we're taking almonds, pulverizing them, and brining them in water, >> essentially leeching out the flavor of
the almond, and then adding a bunch of [ __ ] to it and sugar and whatever, >> adding a lot of sugar. My friend Duncan was like, "Dude, almond milk is good for you." I go, "You look at how much sugar
is in there?" And we were on the phone. He goes, "Holy shit." I go, "Yeah, man. That's why it tastes good." But my doctor told me I had oxalates in my diet, in my my blood test. He said,
"Your oxalates are kind of high." He goes, "Are you eating almonds?" And I said, 'Yeah, I eat almonds all the time.' He's like, "Yeah, cut back." He goes, "That's where it's from."
>> Really? >> Yeah. See, find out how much how much oxalates are in almonds. I just listen to them. And also, it's a lot of like um a lot of that gluten-free flour stuff.
>> If you buy a lot of that stuff, it's like almond flour a lot of the times, >> right? >> Almonds are a high oxalate food. Eating them can raise oxalate levels that
circulate, get filtered by the kidneys and appear in urine, which may increase kidney stone risk in susceptible people. Yeah, >> almonds contain about 296 milligs of
oxalate per 100 grams, roughly 4 milligrams per nut, putting them in the high oxilate category. Yeah. He said they're not bad if you just have them every now and then. He
goes, but don't don't do it on a regular basis. Huh. Yeah. There's a lot of stuff that is high oxilates that people don't think about it that can really [ __ ] you up. Kale,
for instance, like I used to drink kale smoothies all the time until another doctor told me, "You really should cook the kale. >> Cook it and then filter out whatever the
water's in it." And I go, "Really?" I go, "Why?" He goes, "Oxalates." He goes, "You want to cook the oxalates out of them." >> Really?
>> Yeah. And that's apparently what causes a lot of kidney stones with some folks. ly drink a lot of those green smoothies, which I used to do every day. I used to take a bunch of kale, throw in a bunch
of apples and some ginger and some garlic and blend it all up and drink at the beginning of the day. I thought I was doing a good thing. >> And he was like, "You're just blasting
your system with oxalates." And I was like, "Oh, all right." >> Yeah. >> Have some [ __ ] eggs, bro. >> He said, "Have bacon. Have some bacon."
I'm like, "Fucking bacon's better for you?" Like that. My journey of figuring out what to eat was a long one. It was a long one. And then thank god I got this podcast because if I hadn't had all
those conversations with people where I realized like oh so we're like and now the food pyramid's completely flipped which is hilarious. >> Yeah.
>> But it's like I've had enough conversations where I realize like oh all these people don't know what the [ __ ] they're talking about and they're giving advice and it's weird. It's weird
how much bad advice there is for food and for health and for >> [ __ ] fill in the blank almost everything in our society. >> The food pyramid was created by Johnson
and Johnson. Yeah. Or Kelloggs, which is like how do we get people to eat our [ __ ] in the morning and then again at lunch and then Well, the one thing that we can't control and they talk about the
the one thing that we do not have is this massive industrialized meat production because there's no there's no economical way to do it. They'd do it if they could. Harris Ranch, which you
you've probably seen off I5 in uh in California's the closest version of that. But what it is is a feed yard, right? Where you get them together and feed cattle for 90 to 150 days before
you go send them off and slaughter them, right? That's the closest thing there is to an industrialized beef industry because it's an very inefficient way. It's way better to farm, right? It's
more efficient to farm than it is grace cattle. So, you only want to graze cattle somewhere that you can't farm. At the end of the day, you want to graze cattle are great at taking protein from
poor protein sources and metabolizing it, right? So, graze them in real rocky terrain with native grasses that that you can't farm. You can't till it just can't. Um, and it needs to be eaten by
something or weeds will overtake it, right? Because grasses >> grass grows better when it's being grazed. Um, and so there's no way to industrialize that or centralize it. the
most centralized it is is at the packing house right where you've got four packing major packing houses um that control 90 something% of the beef industry and that's starting to change
co was extremely helpful for the smaller farmer and rancher to sit there and get their product out right and find small they start popping up people have opened these USDA facilities that that don't
process 800 head of cattle an hour they maybe do 50 or 50 a And now people can go there because they're a USDA facility. They can buy beef directly from them. Buy it from the
rancher, right? And you can control where your food's coming from as opposed to what what was happening um where you'd get a bunch of if you're going to go get a burger, you're you're eating
some Australian killer bull, right, for the most part or some something from Brazil or you're not eating something that you want to eat, right? Um, when you go to a nice steakhouse, the the
stakes there are they're going to come from most likely Texas uh Iowa Nebraska Montana. There's there's select areas where people are spending that kind of
attention and time to raise that kind of quality of beef, right? Um, and it's being done by smaller ranchers. It may be a big ranch, but it's still operated by relatively few people. You know, 4
sixes is 300,000 acres, but there's 12 cowboys. >> Wow. 12 cowboys for 300,000 acres is nuts. >> Yeah.
>> How do they keep track of everything? >> I mean, we break it down into pastures and then you have uh and then the pastures fall under the terminology is this. say, "Oh, if you're in Guthrie,
there's a there's a camp, and we we call it South Camp, um because it's in the south, and it's responsible for 50,000 acres, right? Which is broken down into multiple pastures that are between 7 and
10,000 acres. There's one big pastor in that in that camp that's like 14,000 acres." Um, and so then you have North Camp, you have what we call then we have camps around the town, little town of
Guthrie. So you break it down into the responsibility of each cowboys somewhere between 35 and 50,000 acres. Wow, that's a hell of a responsibility. >> Yeah,
>> that's a lot of work, man. >> A lot of work. What's it, you know what's really interesting about your shows, particularly Yellowstone, it got people like really attracted to the idea
of brutal hard work as being romantic. >> Yeah. >> You know, people like really identified with those guys on Yellowstone that were just like so dedicated to that ranch, so
dedicated to busting their ass and working all day hard [ __ ] work and then just hanging out together afterwards. And there's something about that life that's so simplistic and
romantic to people that it just really resonated with so many people. They didn't even know that they liked that. Well, it's it's uniquely American, right? And and the amount of freedom
that is. So, we move somebody out to South Camp and we go, "Okay, so here you are. There's your house at South Camp. See you in a week or so. Go figure [ __ ] out.
keep track of the cattle and you give them a string of horses and they work their horses and they and they ride that property. They know every inch of it and you don't ever you don't we don't we
don't have weekly corporate meetings. >> How do they get supplies? Is it is like the house stocked in advance? >> Yeah. Go to town, you know, towns which is an endeavor, right? Town's 90 miles
away. Um so you go to town once a week, right? Adventure, stock up, >> go back. >> Wow. >> Yeah. But it's it's
>> it's a crazy life >> and people incorrect. Not every this isn't true of every cowboy. There's plenty of cowboys that typically they grow up on that ranch and that's the
life that they know and that's what they want to do, right? But they still go off to college. Like almost every one of my cowboys has a ranch management degree. Like they went to school.
>> Wow. >> To study. >> What's a good school if you want to be a cowboy? >> I mean there's a quite a few of them.
Texas Tech. I mean, that's a phenomenal ranch management program. A bunch of the guys on the sixes went there. TCU has a ranch management program, a good one. Texas A&M. Um, you know, we have a we
have vets that live on the ranch. Obviously, we breed a ton of horses. Um, and so our vets, Colorado State's an excellent veterinary school for large animal vets. Obviously, Texas A&M is a
phenomenal school. Texas Tech as well. Those are >> Dude, how the [ __ ] do you pay attention to everything? You're running a gigantic ranch and you have about 48 TV shows.
How the [ __ ] do you do it? I don't understand it. I Every time a new Taylor Sheridan show pops up, I say to my wife, I go, "How the [ __ ] is he doing this?" Like, where does he have this time? Part
of it is, if you think about it, so my crew, my core crew is the same crew I made Wind River with, like when we had no money. I remember one time I'm on the top of a mountain with me and my first
AD and my DP, uh, Ben Richardson, and there's not a producer. We haven't seen anybody in a week. And I looked at, we're freezing our asses off at 7 below zero in northern Utah. And I'm like,
guys, you know, we could just [ __ ] off to Hawaii. Nobody would know for a while. Like, we have we have their we have their money. They don't know. They don't
actually know where we are. they're just trusting that we're going to make this movie, which we did. Um, and it was incredibly difficult. But that's the same team that went over and did
Yellowstone, which is then the same team that went up and did Mayor of Kingtown with me and then 1883, 23, Lionus, Land Man, all of them. And we've promoted from within. I've got PAs that are now
first ads. I've got uh camera operators that are now directors. Um, so we've promoted from within so everyone understands the way we do it and it's so faking efficient. We don't ever have and
you know because you've been in this industry forever. These people will have meetings upon meeting upon meeting. They'll have a they'll have a tone meeting where a
whole bunch of people are going to sit around and try and talk about the tone of the script. Wouldn't you read the [ __ ] thing? You We have to have a meeting about it.
How about we don't have a meeting about it? And then they'll have a they'll have a and this is also networks. They love this [ __ ] So that they can have a reason for their existence, right? All
these middle management people >> and they want to do a prop showand tell where someone's going to come show them all the props that we're going to use. >> Really?
>> Well, we don't do that [ __ ] because I'm like, I need your permission to use which which Bick lighter I'm going to use in this [ __ ] scene. How about I just make the decision? And how about we
use the same Bick lighter in all these [ __ ] shows and I don't ever have to pick a Bick lighter again. How about that? So, we just streamlined it and made it to where it's so efficient.
Typically, a TV show will start up and they'll prep for 12 weeks before they start filming. We We do it in four. Wow. Well, that makes sense. It makes sense that it's streamlined because I've
been on shows when they first start out and it's chaos and there's a lot of network involvement and there's a lot of [ __ ] but then once it gets going, they go, "Oh, you guys know what you're
doing." >> Yeah. >> Leave me alone. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.
>> We're there from the beginning now. >> That's beautiful. >> We haven't missed if you don't miss, >> right? Well, it's like you don't miss like you don't miss with the writing.
You don't miss with the story lines. Like you don't have any duds, man. Which is incred This is incredible. It's an incredible accomplishment to to have that many [ __ ] shows and all of them
be good and all of them be, you know, like very addictive. You know, Land Man is so addictive. >> It's it's that show. It's about something very serious and then I can
just throw [ __ ] at it. >> Yeah. Let's just take a bunch of old people to a strip club. >> Billy Bob is [ __ ] awesome. >> He's a genius.
>> I love that guy. He's so good on that show. It's like it was made for him. >> It was made for him. >> I mean, he's done so many things. I went to Billy Bob before I uh before I wrote
a word and I told him I said if you don't do this I'm not going to do it because I'm not going to chase my tail. >> He goes what is it? I said I want to do I said basically I want to take your
character from Bad Santa and put him in West Texas and run an oil company. >> He goes, "You want the guy from Bad Santa to run the oil company?" I said, "That's what I want." He goes, "That
sounds [ __ ] awesome." Yeah. >> Well, it's it's educational, too. I mean, a lot of people like have no idea how the oil business works. And you you
watch that show, you go, "Jesus Christ, what a crazy job." It's an insane job. And and and the other thing about it is we're so completely dependent upon petroleum in every single aspect of our
lives. So completely dependent upon it. And we can debate how bad it is or isn't and and and or not debate it. The reality is we don't have an alternative. Like it does not exist. It simply
doesn't exist. And we could sit there and say, "Well, wind and this." No. You sit down with any climatologist and any engineer, they're going to tell you, "Our best hope for a replacement of
petroleum fuels is cold fusion." And we're 30, 40 years from it, being something that we can rely upon >> and reduce little nuclear reactors, like itty bitties, like
>> the size of this coffee pot. >> That's what they're talking about. They're talking about like individual reactors that people have in their homes. Like, how long does it take
before there's disasters? Like, that sounds [ __ ] Having a really good nuclear power plant for a city is an awesome idea. Having everyone have their own nuclear power plant
sounds [ __ ] crazy. >> You know, >> how many [ __ ] are going to cut into that thing? >> Well, people still put [ __ ] metal in
microwaves, so I don't think we should be giving >> I've done it. I'm like, well, how bad can it really be? >> There's people that leave their [ __ ]
gas on so that someone can die in the house. No, we don't. >> People are nuts. >> People are nuts. If you literally have consumer level nuclear power plants,
>> not with these monkeys. That's what Not with the human beings that we are today, our our current form. We're not enlightened enough to have personal nuclear power plants in our house.
>> Oh, [ __ ] >> Yeah. So, we're we're we're dependent upon it. Um, >> that's why we're in Iran right now. >> Also because of Israel. But I mean we're
we're in Iran. I mean the whole thing about it is the oil the straight of Hormuz. It's like I think it's 40% of the world's oil supply passes through there.
>> Yeah. >> Like Christ. >> No. That's And and and I think also China. >> Mhm.
>> It's a big play against It's a chess piece against China. >> Mhm. >> That's what I think. >> Yeah. All of it's [ __ ] terrifying.
>> What uh And I'm not saying we should have or we shouldn't have. I'm not commenting politically, but what those guys, those SF guys did in Venezuela was [ __ ] gangster.
>> It's crazy. >> Whether I'm not saying they should or shouldn't. I'm just saying, >> right? >> The team was sent and and the team I
mean, can you imagine if I wrote it in a movie, people would go, "That's [ __ ] ridiculous Taylor." >> Right? We don't have fly a bunch of SF dudes, drop them off on the roof of this
high-rise surrounded by the [ __ ] Cuban special forces and they're going to kill all of them. And then they're going to [ __ ] snatch him and his wife, go back to the roof, and just
[ __ ] fly away. That's what they did. >> And they're going to do it with sound. They're going to disable everyone with a sound weapon. Like what?
>> Like there was Do you remember when they first started talking about that Havana syndrome and people were dismissing it? This is horshit. This is [ __ ] Like, no. They're talking about people that
are in Havana that they've been targeted. Something zapped them. >> Lowle frequencies that made them nauseous. Yeah. >> Yeah. And I think that is a fraction of
whatever they unleashed in Venezuela. >> Who knows? >> The discombobulator, that's what it's called, classified secret weapon system President Donald Trump claimed US forces
used during the January 3rd operation to capture Venezuelan President Nicholas Maduro. He stated that the weapon successfully disabled enemy equipment and air defenses, preventing them from
firing back. So, it's it's both it disables the people and it disables their weapon system. What? That's amazing. What the [ __ ] are we doing? Official silence. When asked
for specific technical or operational details about how the device functions, Trump famously told New York Post, "I'm not allowed to talk about it." They He says, "They press buttons. They
claimed the defense forces pressed buttons and nothing worked, disabling both Russian and Chinese-made rockets and radar. If we affected both mechanical equipment
and personnel, he also referred to it at He also referred to a sonic weapon being used against Maduro's Cuban security detail inside a heavily fortified fortress.
[ __ ] a man. >> I would love to see what that looks like, you know? I bet they have video, too. How about these guys? Sure. >> Yeah.
>> All wearing GoPros. >> I'd love to go into a skiff. Just show me the video. I won't say nothing. I want to see what it looks like. I just want to watch what does it look like
when somebody gets zapped by sound and gets fully disabled. Like apparently they just fell to the ground in agony. They couldn't move. >> Yeah.
>> And they just went in and shot everybody. >> Some freaking SF snipers are just freaking on top of that just raining down on them. It's
>> crazy. Like that guy thought he was safe. Crazy. And there's a famous video of him saying, "Come and get me." >> Oh yeah, >> bro.
>> Yeah. Be careful. Don't what bear you poke. >> Yeah. Also, it's like we none of us know what the tip of the spear technology and weapon systems is available right now.
We don't know. They don't tell us. They don't tell us. Obviously, no one knew that this [ __ ] discombobulator thing existed. >> This is science fiction.
>> Yeah. >> Right. If this was 20 years ago, you'd be like, "That's not a real thing." >> But now you're like, "Oh [ __ ] they used it. It's not not just a concept. They
[ __ ] used it. What else? What are they what are they cooking out in the desert in the middle of Nevada? Who knows? >> Yeah. And think about this. For that to
be used, there's something four generations past that >> 100% >> that they're playing with now. >> Yeah. 100%. You know, this whole UAP
world stuff like when they start talking about UAPs, all of my [ __ ] alarms go off. All of them. It's like I don't believe if you knew things you would tell us. So, I don't believe you're
telling us the truth. I think they have some special access programs that they've been working on for decades and decades and some super highlevel [ __ ] that involves some sort of novel
propulsion system and they have that stuff flying around in the sky. And I think that's what a lot of people are saying. That's what a lot of people are saying. That doesn't discount the idea
that there's something else out there because I think there is. But I think there's a giant chunk of the [ __ ] that people are seeing that's ours. >> Yeah. Testing.
>> Yeah. Testing. Doing stuff with it. >> If there was an intelligent life form that had stumbled upon our barbaric asses, why would they not go, "Hey guys, fire up that [ __ ] missile and take we
found this blue planet. We got to get rid of this thing." >> Well, I think maybe every intelligent species that's tribal and territorial has to go through an adolescent period
of their evolution. And if you look at human history, you know, I was reading about Vlad the Impaler last night. Jesus Christ. And how how many of the Ottoman Turks that got killed and his famous
methods of putting people on posts and separating them down the line on the road so that as these poor guys are traveling to go and fight him, they just see the enemy stuck on skewers and in
geometric patterns and [ __ ] He would do them in like stars and stuff. Just he was a vicious [ __ ] and he's the the motivation behind or the, you know, the inspiration behind Dracula.
>> And I was reading about that guy. I'm like, [ __ ] People have always been awful. They've always been awful, but they just like as time goes on, they get a little less awful. A little less. Like
we're a little less awful now than we were during Nazi Germany. Not totally great. >> Not collectively. Certain. >> We're still willing to do genocide. Some
of us are, but it's less less approved. It's less more people are horrified at it. It's like human beings are getting a little bit better. It's it's not as quick as
we'd like. And I think if I was an alien life form, I would say you have to wait this out. It's like if you have a kid, you got to let the kid fall down and stumb stumble. You got to let him get
hurt. You got to let things happen. You got to let him [ __ ] up and figure it out himself. You got to figure this out. Make it right. You [ __ ] this up. You got to give them a chance to become
better, >> right? >> I think as a civilization, I would think the same thing would apply. You have to give this civilization time to evolve
and adapt and get past where it's at right now. And I don't think that you do that by intervening and like grabbing us by the hand and showing us the way. I think what you do is you hang back and
make sure that we don't nuke each other and just sort of pay attention to all the different international ongoings and just let human beings slowly but surely evolve.
>> Yeah, >> that's what I would do if I was a intelligent life form observing people. The interesting thing that we're as a civilization facing now and and it's
always happened in some capacity when a society gets wealthy, really wealthy, and people start to question wealth and how can we be more equitable and and it comes
across like compassion, but it really comes down to a debate of what is more valuable to a society. Is self-determination more valuable or is equity more valuable? And by equity,
what I mean is everyone gets exactly the same [ __ ] Everyone. So you take them off of We're not on a monetary society anymore. Now you're working for the collective. And you're hearing that word
thrown around a lot, >> right, >> these days. The problem with working for the collective is um who decides who picks up the trash and who decides who
gets to go represent your nation at the Olympics? who gets to decide who gets to um is someone going to let me go make TV shows, which by the way I wouldn't do
for free. It's too [ __ ] hard, >> right? >> Um so now I don't want to do it. >> Well then you got to go do do this. Well, I don't want to do that either.
>> And that's the problem. >> And then they force you to do things. And then how do they do that? They do that with guns. >> Yeah. So then so so the you either have
self-determination or in your attempt to be collective you have to surrender that and then you're surrendering it to who and and now you have a dictatorship no matter what the [ __ ] you thought you
had. >> Yeah. >> It always comes back to that. It always you can you can look at >> Marxism and Leninism and what Linen was
talking about his hopes whether they were his hopes or not. Um but it it devolved into uh an authoritarian regime very very quickly and and you know communism socialism fascism uh
Nazism, they're all very very similar. The differences are superficial. I think Ann Ran said that they're just superficial variations between the exact same thing which is the evil of the
collective. >> The evil of the collective and human beings desire to control their people. >> Yeah. They love to they and and anytime you give them a chance where they could
feel righteous about controlling people, they jump at it and they can they have an opportunity to classify people. There's good people and bad people. And the bad people, you can do whatever you
want to them. They're the other. And that that happens with every every time groups get into power like that and tell you what you can and can't do. And you're seeing that being embraced
shockingly more and more all over the world. people are embracing more government power and more government control and it's really crazy. It's really crazy to see.
>> It's unique. I think that number one I think in 30 years when they look back like we are still suffering from a society uh from COVID like still and and not so
much from the disease itself but from our faith in the institutions around us whether it's government whether it's the media whether it's pharmaceutical companies um and
the the way that it was manipulated to gain power for a political group and it was effective and so when something's effective then people just keep doing the same thing until it's no longer
effective right um we did that in our military with the wind's hearts and minds right so that was all that all comes from Japan right we're going to win the hearts and minds of Japanese
well the Japanese surrendered like their emperor who they looked at as a god He told the people of Japan after we dropped two freaking nuclear bombs on them, hey, we are going to endure the
unendurable. We are going to surrender. It's the only way that we can salvage our nation. So, they willfully surrendered. And then our government goes, "Look how great this hearts and
mind stuff's working. It's not working. It's not working at all." And then they tried it in Vietnam, didn't work. Tried it everywhere else that we've had a conflict. We've tried it and it hasn't
worked yet because what it was based on was flawed, right? Because they they chose to be subjugated at that time and and making that choice kept them an independent nation.
So our our our government our and it's so dangerous what we're seeing. Um you can like Trump or not like Trump. It doesn't people are going to like presidents and
dislike presidents. But now it defying the rule of law because he happens to be the head of the federal government and openly defying the federal government. The repercussions of
that are going to be, okay, fine. You you can't stand this man. You think he's a terrible president and you're not going to follow his laws. But that's the new normal now. So when a president gets
in that you do support, then the other side because we've established this precedent, they're just not going to follow his laws either, >> right?
>> And now we've eroded the rule of law. And yeah, and then then what happens? >> The slippery slope is very dangerous. >> It's I mean, I was saying that when the ICE raids were going on cuz I was like,
okay, I am not in favor of illegal criminals being in this country. However, we're setting a very alarming precedent where you have masked militarized police with no ID that are
running around the cities snatching people up like this. This could set a precedent that could be used by the left if they get into power for something different than this being than just for
ICE. We've already accepted the idea of militarized police on our streets and that people with seven weeks training, you're just sending them out to snatch up people and a lot of American citizens
are getting caught up in that trap too unfortunately and then they have to get released. Like that that could be bad if if the next party gets in. So if the Democrats get in next and they decide
like maybe there's a new vac a new COVID strain happens, some new pandemic happens, whatever the [ __ ] >> and if you don't get the vaccine, they're going to arrest you and then
they start the same. >> Yes, we saw it in I think it was Minnesota or whoever they had the National Guard on the streets, but they had people enforcing lockdowns and so
they had people walking down the streets with [ __ ] guns, yelling at people to get in your house over a cold >> like this. these kind of slippery slopes. You might think, "No, we're just
trying to get rid of the bad immigrants." I get it. I'm with you. I agree. However, the way they're doing it, doing it, and I don't know, I'm not even saying there's another way or a
better way. I'm just saying you want to get them out all at once, yeah, that's the way to do it. You want to get them out quick, that's the way to do it because they got them in quick. You're
right. They opened the [ __ ] border. They helped people get in. But now that they're in the if you're going to get them out that way, you're setting a weird precedent, you're setting a
precedent that could be used in other ways. >> Yeah. That's the the the challenge is, okay, we're going to we need to enforce the
law, right? Or don't have them, right? They've they've enacted no new laws. These are the same immigration laws that were on the books when Obama was president and Clinton was president. The
same the same rules. It's the It's the methodology and and uh yeah, you gotta you got to sit there and weigh the pros and cons about okay the pros of trying to eradicate this issue. You can't give
it a deadline. >> Yeah. >> Right. Um >> it's slippery. It is slippery and and again it's what's good for the goose is
good for the gander and and these politicians right now who are doing all of us a tremendous disservice in Washington. I feel our elected officials um because they're they're not thinking
beyond this next election and maybe they never have. >> They never have. >> Right. But they were better at hiding it. Maybe
>> I think there was no internet >> but well true. >> I think that's what it is. There was no social media. >> But I think we've reached a point as
they as they as politicians talk about eliminating the electoral college. They talk about eliminating the filibuster, eliminate packing courts, all these things because their side's not in
power. And so we're just going to take the structure of the government and totally rework it to benefit us temporarily, but then those same benefits that you have now will be used
against you. >> They will 100% be used against you. I think the most important legislation that we can pass right now is term limits.
>> I think I think 12 years tops in Congress and I think probably 12 years in the Senate. Two six-year terms in the Senate. >> That's more than enough time. That's a
lot of [ __ ] time. >> That's enough. We don't We don't need any anyone else. I mean, I don't know how it's become >> How the [ __ ] is Nancy Pelosi worth $400
million? >> How the [ __ ] Well, I know how. Yeah. She gets in on all these [ __ ] IPOs. >> Exactly. >> Right. She's going to pass the
legislation that allows Visa to go public and then she's going to get a big chunk of it and then when she's confronted about it, look a reporter dead in the eye and [ __ ] lie to him.
>> I don't know what you're talking about. I didn't do that. It's public. We know you did it. We could look at how much stock you own. >> Yeah.
>> [ __ ] liar. >> They all do it. >> Yes. They get >> People are calling out Roana on Twitter today.
>> [ __ ] rich. Everyone's getting rich. >> They get paid 175 grand a year and they're all [ __ ] millionaires. >> Super millionaires. They're all like like she's intensely wealthy. That's
that's a that's a almost a half a billion dollars. That's nuts. As a public servant, that's nuts. >> Yeah. It's it's insanity. >> And it's um you know, that's what we're
used to. We're just we we just we know it's bad and we just accept it and people are busy and they have families and mortgages and [ __ ] to deal with and so they complain and they keep on
trucking. >> Yeah. I mean I have as we discussed I have other jobs. I don't have a pile of time to dedicate to gets tough for me to talk politics because I don't have hours
in my day to sift through what's real and not real on Instagram or social whatever. I'm not on that [ __ ] But I can't. It's hard to form an opinion because man, I don't know and I
don't know where to go to get honest news. I'm not the news. I know that. I can't turn on the [ __ ] news cuz they [ __ ] been lying to us. They they stopped being I don't know if
they were ever impartial. I But but I know I know that. Um I remember there was a guy I was a kid. He was running for president. His name was Jack Kemp. >> I remember Jack Kemp.
>> And I want to say it was Dan Rather. It may not have been. It may have been some other newscaster. And there's a debate amongst all these different potential candidates for president. And
as he's introducing all of these various politicians, he's saying so and so Harvard graduate and law professor from here and this former senator and this and that and the other and this person
here. And they get to Jack Kemp and he goes, "Backup quarterback and born again Christian Jack Kemp." I'm like, "Wow, you just sunk that dude. Everyone else you gave what their jobs
were and and talked about their accomplishments and this. You just said he didn't start at quarterback and he's you called that his religion, dude." And that's the first time I ever remember.
I'm like, "I know your opinion. I'm not supposed to know your opinion. You're supposed to be you're supposed to be giving me news, >> right? You're supposed to be giving me
honest, unbiased information so I can make a decision and you're making a decision for me or trying to. >> Yeah. >> And they've gotten so as news became
entertainment. I mean, CNN's the worst thing that ever happened to news because it's 24 hours and now all of a sudden >> there's not 24 hours worth of news all the time, right? There is during a war,
right? You can show us news, you know, war footage the whole time and talk about the war and why war and why no war, but when there's not, you got to make some [ __ ] up or push an opinion.
And that's where we've gotten with news now. Now it's news is piss them off and scare the [ __ ] out of them. >> Yeah. >> That's how we keep them watching.
>> And that's the business model. >> It is now. >> And it's also piss them off and scare the [ __ ] out of them, but ignore certain things that your sponsors wouldn't like
you to talk about. >> Oh yeah. This is why you know Tulsi Gabbard and in her final act as um director of national intelligence as she's leaving she had that she gave that
press conference about Fouchy >> and she talked about how he lied in front of Congress and that he absolutely used American tax funds to fund gain of function research through Ecoalth
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for podcast listeners. >> No. And by the way, didn't we all know that already? Well, we knew it, but my parents didn't. People that just like just read the newspapers and watch TV,
they don't know. >> I I've never seen anything as flagrantly obvious as as CO coming from the Wuhan lab studying COVID. >> Right.
>> Right. I've never And you've got [ __ ] news anchors keeping a straight face saying it came from the wet market. Did you ever see John Stewart's bid on it that he did on the Cobar show? No. You
never saw it? No. Oh, we we need to play it. Let's play it because it's so funny because Colbert tries to like stop him from doing it and push back and John, he's a great comic. He just gets up from
his chair and gets louder and just plows through it >> over Cobar's like trying to [ __ ] block his bit. He's like it's like it's a funny bit and he's getting in the way.
I'd like to see if you have information on that. I'd like to see it. And he just keeps going. He keeps plowing away. It's very funny and it's in the middle of it, right? He was a This was a courageous
step because he was doing this when calling it out and saying that it came from a lab in Wuhan, China was somehow or another conflated with racism. Remember that? Like if you said it came
from Wuhan, China from a lab, you're racist. Like how did you pull that off? Like how it's like no one's saying anything. It's racist. It's like it's from [ __ ] China and it seems like Eco
Health Alliance funded it and it seems like we funded Eco Health Alliance. There's a lot of [ __ ] paperwork >> and and by the way, there's studies on the [ __ ] disease. Yeah.
>> That they've been doing that are posted on the CDC website. >> They're posted on the [ __ ] my favorite was when you catch all this [ __ ] about Ivormectin. Yeah. And and
literally when when that happened, I went I [ __ ] look that up. look up ivormectin and studies with ivormectin and a study pops up on the on the CDC website while people are telling us to
not take that [ __ ] >> and it and it talks about the efficacy of ivormectin anti and antiviral properties specifically co 19. Yeah. So it's on the government website that the
[ __ ] drug works >> while they're telling everyone to not take it >> and they're mocking me for taking horse dewormer. Watch this. This is great.
This is great. >> No, you you stop because he still wants to put out that establishment position. I'd like to see any evidence if you've got any evidence.
>> Yeah. Well, wild times in the news because I think from then on that sort of sent a shock wave through the majority of the population where it just whatever trust they had in the news just
got >> severely eroded. Yeah. And if we don't have good news, if we don't have trust in the news, then we're kind of a drift. And then you get locked into [ __ ]
conspiracy theories and eco chambers online and you can get trapped in them, too. And that's not good either. >> Yeah. Then then there's nowhere to go get information.
>> Has anybody in NBC, CBS, CNN, have any of those people picked up on that Tulsi Gabbard speech about Fouchy and had any sort of a reaction to it?
I'd like to know that because from what I was reading online, no, none of them had. But this was as of yesterday. I don't know whether or not that's changed. I don't know if like they were
preparing an article and they wanted to make sure that they got all their ducks in a row. I would think pretty much anytime the head of an institute
is begging for a pardon when he hasn't been charged with any crime is is pretty good indicator you might want to look and see if there's been a crime committed.
>> Was he begging for a pardon? I mean, he got >> Yeah. Fouchy Fouchy was like he had he had attorneys this is in part of that deal. He had attorneys
>> reaching out to Biden's camp the last day when he got the pardon. Gez, the very last day. >> Geez, >> it's just a preemptive pardon is nuts.
Especially when when Rand Paul's questioning him and he's talking to him about specifically about what what defines gain of function research. And by all account, by every definition,
it's gain of function research. And Fouchi is still saying, "You do not know what you are talking about." With all due respect, >> even though Even though he's a doctor.
>> Yeah. Grandpa's a [ __ ] doctor and an actual doctor. And then they say, "Well, you're an eye doctor." Well, that's my specialty. But before I became an eye doctor, I became a general doctor, which
means I studied all the same [ __ ] that Fouchy studied. Yeah. >> You had to go through medical school before you go pick a specialty. So, four years of studying the entire body before
you specialize in whatever you're going to specialize in. >> Well, it's also then if you read RFK Jr.'s book, The Real Anthony Fouchy. You find out he ran this exact same playbook
during the AIDS pandemic. >> Was the exact same playbook. That's what the Dallas Buyers Club is about. The Dallas Buyers Club, that McConnA movie about AIDS. The [ __ ] villain is
Anthony Fouchy. He's the guy that's stopping them from getting alternative medications. That's the guy that wanted everybody to take ACT. You know why? Because ACT had already been approved.
They had already used it as a cancer medication. It was a chemotherapy medication that they stopped using because it was too deadly. It was killing people quicker than cancer was
killing them. So the first medication they gave people when they had an immune system that was compromised was a chemotherapy medication that was killing people. And they were giving it to
people that were asymptomatic. They were giving giving it to people that tested HIV positive. And then you know about the PCR testing. So, the PTR says, Carrie Mullis, the guy who invented PCR
testing, said publicly about Fouchy does not know what the [ __ ] he's talking about. I don't think he said [ __ ] but he does not know what he's talking about. And that it's not supposed to be
used to detect a disease in a person's body. And that if you ramp up the cycles long enough, just like they did with COVID, where we got some by some estimations 80% false positives because
of the PCR method because they were ramping them up so high and so they cut it back quite significantly and that reduced the amount of false positives they had. But there's a lot of people
that got tested as HIV positive that probably weren't and they put those [ __ ] people on ACT and ACT kills you. >> Wow. Yeah, nuts. Most mainstream outlets are
treating it as a serious but unproven political bombshell. They're reporting that Gabbard alleges what Gabbard alleges, stressing the documents are disputed and under review and
highlighting how polarized the reaction is. Mainstream print Jerusalem Post Money Control Newsweek summarized her accusations, emphasized that CO's
origins remain unresolved and note that the claims about Fouchi sparking COVID or lying under oath are heavily contested, not yet legally validated. Many stories frame this as reigniting a
longunning fight over lab leak versus natural origin. Listen, that fight is over, kids. That fight's over. this. If you're saying if you are in the news and you are saying that there's still a long
running controversy as to whether it's a lab leak or natural origin, shut your [ __ ] dirty [ __ ] mouth because it's not. There's the fight's over. It's a [ __ ] lab leak. They say the new
documents will need independent scrutiny from Congress, investigators, and scientists before any firm conclusions can be drawn. Okay.
Right- leaning media highlight her file dump as vindication for critics, focus on the coverup narrative, and give prominent space to Republicans like Ran Paul. Why does it more centrist or
mainstream outlets present it as a straighter news tone, often pairing Gabbards and GOP's quotes with Fouch's past denials, and nothing? There is so far no judicial finding, a perjury, or
criminal conduct. >> What I've never understood is how this became a left or right issue. >> So stupid. when when Fouchy, who's a a career bureaucrat,
>> right, through I mean, when all this started, there was a Republican president. Yep. >> Right. And then he's he's served that Republican president. He served the
Democratic president before that and before that and then he served a Republican. I mean, he's been there for [ __ ] 50 years. >> Yeah.
>> It's been there. >> This dude, it's not political. >> It It shouldn't be political. There shouldn't be a right left side of this. It's, hey, a career bureaucrat [ __ ]
lied to us. >> He used the exact same language when he was talking about ACT as a medication for HIV that he used for the COVID vaccine. The reason why it's the only
medication is because it is both safe and effective. Guy's a monster. >> Yeah. So lit like he's one of those guys like throughout history where you're
going to look back over time and you go, "Holy [ __ ] this one guy's lies, this one guy's aspirations, this one guy's career [ __ ] so many people over." >> Yeah. And I don't and I don't understand
why Democrats would want to fall on that sword with there's no reason to align >> because people are stupid and they just decide that because a Republican's a president and the anything the
Republicans are pushing has to be bad. And that that stupid [ __ ] division. It's so it's so silly. It's so silly. It really is because the same people during Trump's presidency were openly saying,
"Are you going to trust a vaccine that's created under Trump?" They were all saying it. >> Kla Harris said it. A bunch of Joy Reid said they all said it
>> and and then they then they bet their entire political livelihoods on it. >> We deserve better. We really do. Or we don't. Maybe we don't. We [ __ ] think they're good. I We're so silly. Such a
[ __ ] silly group of human beings we are. >> That's [ __ ] wild, man. >> Not all of us though, you know. I think less of us now. I think um it's it's
going to be way harder to divide people the way they divided everybody in 2020. It'll be way harder now. I think most people are just not buying it. And as long as people wake up to this left
versus right nonsense is really just a big [ __ ] hustle to keep you fighting with each other. >> Oh, most of it. >> Oh, for sure.
>> Most of it. Even the ICE stuff that we were talking about. Hey folks, do you think it's a coincidence that the biggest [ __ ] ICE protests were all going on in the same place where they
found all that fraud? Do you ever occur to you? It occurred to you that these organized massive protests were all occurring in the same place where that Nick Shirley cat found [ __ ] billions
of dollars in fraud. >> Yeah. >> Shocker. Kind of crazy. Didn't they pass Didn't California pass a law >> a Nick Shirley law
>> to prevent that that specifically that guy from [ __ ] poking around in California? >> Yes. Yes. I mean they've even referred to it as the Nick Shirley law. The idea
is to keep people from investigating fraud, which is outlandish. That is outrageous. That is a crazy thing to emphasize. And the thing is, well, you these people are showing up at daycarees
and looking in. Right. They shouldn't. You're right. I 100% and people random people from the internet should not be showing up at daycarees with cameras. I agree. However,
when there's no one in that daycare for years and years and years and they can prove that [ __ ] millions of dollars are being earned by that daycare and there's no one in there, it gets a
little weird. >> Isn't there a Isn't there >> It's not fully passed into law. Not yet. Isn't there a video of that kid like walking up to one of these and these
dudes get out and like drive off in their [ __ ] Bentleys? >> I don't know if those are real. There's a bunch of fake videos that were made by people afterwards that were just
capitalizing on people wanting to click on something like that. And so they were just engagement farming by pretending like the guy would show up and they'd go, "What? What are you talking about? I
don't I have no idea what this bad acting." And they get in a Rolls-Royce like >> it's just [ __ ] It seemed like [ __ ] to me. I I mean, I'm sure a
bunch of those guys made a bunch of money and I'm sure there is a lot of fraud. It just like they're admitting it. Minnesota's admitting it. They knew it was going on forever, you know. And
then how about the fact that there's certain politicians that voted uh against this idea. So, one of those ladies that was killed, like there was a lady and her husband that were murdered
in Minnesota and she was one of the few people that voted against providing Medicare for illegals. They were trying to they were trying to pass some bill involving Medicare and illegals and she
was one of the ones that voted against it and she was killed. The guy who killed her said that Tim Waltz sent him to kill them. Now, I don't know if he's full of [ __ ] He easily could be. He's a
[ __ ] crazy person. He's a murderer. He showed up at their house with a mask on and [ __ ] shot them dead and shot a couple other people, too. >> It's like he's, you know, obviously he's
[ __ ] cracked out. But kind of weird kind of weird that the lady who wants to vote against this obvious fraud, this money that's being somehow another funneled around through Medicare, like
one of the things that Elon said when he was on the podcast is that Medicaid and Medicare fraud is one of the biggest [ __ ] problems. And he was looking into with Doge. He goes, "I almost don't
want to talk about it because I don't want to get killed." He goes, "It's that bad." And this was before all this Nick Shirley [ __ ] And now you're seeing it
and you're like, "Oh, now I get it." These hospices that they have, these fake hospices in California, and then these all the Somali daycare centers and all the different things. Like, these
people are just make autism, the autism diagnosises went through the [ __ ] roof because now they could have these autism centers so they just diagnose their kids as autistic and then they're
raking in all this money for treatment. It's crazy how much fraud there is. >> Hundreds of billions. >> Hundreds of billions of dollars. And just what a shocker that that's the
place where the big ICE protest broke out. >> Oh, >> people forget that when Obama was president, he made a big public
statement about going after government fraud. They were aware of it then. I mean, they've been aware of it for it's always taken place, but on the scale and and he tried and he caught resistance to
the point that he wasn't able to do his version of a Doge, >> right, >> which was which was his intention. He gave a big public speech about it and
and tried to look into it and he's if you're stealing hundreds of billions of dollars, hundreds of billions of dollars, what wouldn't you do to protect that?
>> Exactly. And that was Elon's point. >> Yeah. >> And also that money for sure makes its way into Democratic coffers and probably Republican too. And who whoever the [ __ ]
is going to be >> whoever's whoever's enabling the fry. >> Who's ever going to who's ever going to help out? Whoever wants a piece of this pie is a juicy ass pie. It's a hundred
billion dollar pie. Come get something. >> That'll almost bill you a rail system in California. You can get a mile of track >> or a second Google bridge >> [ __ ] car salesman. Have you had that
guy on? >> No. No. He wants to be on. I'm sure >> he talks a lot of [ __ ] about me. At first he was saying Joe Rogan is not a fan of me, but I'm a big fan of him. He
was like saying all this. >> Doesn't he have his own podcast? Yeah, >> because that city, that state is running so well. He the governor doesn't need a lot of free time. It's so smooth. If you
ask him, he'll tell you. He'll tell you how awesome this stats the stats are. >> Statistically, people are moving there in record numbers. >> Yeah, that's not true. It's not true.
It's um it's uh the all the stats, the positive stats, they were already going on before he was the governor. It's it's California is an awesome place. The [ __ ] weather's perfect. San Francisco
has always been an incredible tech hub of geniuses. There's always been a bunch of super wizards up there that are creating some of the best technology in the world. And that has nothing to do
with him. Has zero to do with him and all these problems that their inept government has caused because that's the real problem with him as a governor. It's a real problem with Karen Bass as a
mayor. It's a real problem with whatever the [ __ ] happened to San Francisco. It's bad government. It's not upholding the rule of the law, not keeping people safe, being empathetic to people that
are shooting up on the street over people that are trying to walk their [ __ ] kids to school. >> Yeah. >> Like what you're doing is bad for
society. It's bad. And and it seems to me that for the most part, for the most part, if you are the mayor of a city, and and when I was writing Yellowstone,
the the governor of Montana at the time, who was a Democrat, I I called him and asked him uh I said, "Hey guys, talk to you about what it's like to be a governor. Like, what did you think it
would be and what did it turn out to be?" And and what he said was, um, Steve Bulock is his name. Uh he said well I thought I was going to you know make all these changes and do this and shepherd
this and I learned that I am the CEO of a state and that my job as the CEO of the state is take care of the people who live in the state the employees of the state attract business here attract
tourism here and try to make the state make more money and make lives better. That's my job. Infrastructure and city management and people management and tourism. That's my job. And to a even
more acutely to a mayor, you're really the president of a city. You're the CEO of the city. And your job is keep the lights on, pick up the trash, put out the fires, deal with the sewage, keep it
safe. Like that's it. There's no social anything secondarily possibly. but run the schools, like run the city. And and you have in a lot of these big urban areas where they're so agenda driven and
they're they're pushing a social agenda and they're not running the cities. They're not running them at all. And so they're running into the ground. And it's tragic to see because San
Francisco, like you said, it's a beautiful city. LA used to be an an a place where you could go and make your dreams come true. >> San Francisco was awesome 10 years ago.
Just 10 years ago, I I filmed my special triggered in the Fillmore in San Francisco in 2016. It was great. No problems. It was not It was a homeless people everywhere. It was normal. It was
normal San Francisco. Go to a cool restaurant. People are cool. Always been like a smart city. Interesting architecture. Always been a great city. I lived there from the time I was 7 to
11. >> Really? >> Yeah. I loved San Francisco. It's unrecognizable now. 10 years. That's it. 10 years of [ __ ] asinine government.
And also this homeless thing when you realize that it's an industry when the homelessness is valuable. Having homeless people on the streets is
valuable because you can get more money to deal with this obvious homeless problem. The more obvious the problem is, the more money they're going to throw on it. They don't have to fix it.
>> Well, there's no there's no intention to fix it, >> right? >> They're giving out free needles here. Yeah,
>> get high here. It's And I was I was just somewhere where my first experience seeing the homeless in this magnitude. And the one thing that's evident instantly is they're all so completely
strung out on drugs. Like this fentanyl thing is no [ __ ] joke. like the zombies leaning against every corner of and and and to me it's cruel, >> right? Yeah. Like if if someone's to
that point you and you want to help them, don't give them a [ __ ] iPhone and some more needles, how about you pick them up off the street >> and you take them somewhere and go,
"Look, there's a curfew here and you ain't doing no drugs, right? >> We're gonna clean you out." Um and and some aren't going to want that. they're going to want to go back on the street
and do drugs and and the addiction and the consequences of drugs that are that I had surgery. They had put me on fentanyl. I had neck surgery and they put me on fentanyl. There's high. Then
there's that [ __ ] And that was done by an anesthesiologist. I wasn't self-medicating on a [ __ ] parking lot right? >> What'd you get done to your neck?
>> Uh C6C7. I blew up >> No, no, no, no, no. I had the >> disc. Yeah. >> Just cut some of it down. >> Yeah. It's okay now.
>> Yeah. >> How long ago did you get that done? >> Was that maybe three years ago? >> I wish I told you. >> Yeah. Three years ago.
>> If that ever happens again, don't do that. >> Don't. >> No. >> Well, it'll happen.
>> There's Yeah, I'm sure it will. Um, there's other ways. There's way. Yeah, there's PRP can help it. Regenicine help mine. I had a pretty bad bulging disc in my neck.
>> What's Reen? Regenicine is um they used to have to go to Germany to do it. Uh, I know Payton Manning went there. or Kobe Bryant went there and Dana White actually flew to Germany to get it done.
Um, it is uh it's like an advanced form of plateletri plasma where they take your blood, they uh there's a process to it. Pull it up, Jamie, because I can't remember what the process is, but they
spin it in a centurfuge for like 10 hours and then you come back the next day and they inject it and it makes this very potent anti-inflammatory and they inject it around wherever the injury is
to the disc and uh it provides like within weeks amazing relief and for me it completely cured it. I I I had a point my fingers were going numb. >> Yeah, that's what
>> uh German go back up back to where Yeah. So German physician Dr. Peter Welling uh the treatment focused on blocking a specific inflammatory protein interlucan one. So
they take the blood out um they draw your blood and then the blood is heated to body temperature to trigger the production of a natural anti-inflammatory protein called IL1
and then they spin it in a centrifuge uh separating out the proteinrich serum. The serum is then injected directly into the painful joint or tissue. Dude, it was remarkable for me for uh knee
injuries. I did it a bunch of times. I used to do it at they they moved it. You you used to have to go to Germany and then Santa Monica. They opened up an office. It's lifestyle medicine. That's
what it's called, right? Um and then um that's where I had it done. And you it's incredible. Like it I had it done my entire back. Like there's a picture of me on the on Instagram with a bunch of
these [ __ ] tubes in my That's me right there. >> Bunch of those tubes. my hairy ass back. And uh it was incredible. I mean, it really fixed so many problems that I
had. It's uh really great for specifically for back injuries, knee injuries, stuff like that. There's a lot of good biological options. There's also
decompression is very important. I have a harness that I attach to a pull-up bar and it straps under my chin and I just like let my weight drop down and decompress my weight on my neck. I do
that every day. And then I also have this thing called a Dex 3. Is it Dex 2 or Dex 3? Uh you you hang forward. Uh it's like Teeter makes it. You know that company that makes those decompression
tables, but this one's even better cuz you just hinge from the hip. So you're not supporting it at all with your legs and it's just your back. It just goes like pop pop. Like you could feel it.
>> I made one of those. >> I'll show it to you. We have one out here. We have two of them out here actually. Really? >> Right out Yeah. in the gym. It's they're
they're the [ __ ] I have one at home. I don't I I will not not have one. I have to have one. It's so good for just decompressing your back. But you need to decompress the neck, too. Anytime you're
doing anything, if you're deadlifting or squat, obviously you're lifting a lot of heavy weights. If anytime you're lifting weight, you got to think of all that all that pressure is on your back. All that
squashing down and you got to do something to stretch it out. >> Stretch it back out. >> But there's ways to heal it now without taking away the disc. So, the problem is
every time they cut away a piece of your disc, >> you got less disc. You got less disc. Yeah. So, the good news is there's some treatments that they're doing now where
they're actually injecting some sort of a hydro gel. >> I've heard about this. >> Yeah. Into the disc itself. So, I asked Brigham from Ways to Well about that and
they're looking into it and they're trying to apparently this is not being done um widely yet. This is like this just experimental, but they they think they're going to be able to do that.
There's also some places like CPI, uh, Cellular Performance Institute down at Tijana. They've successfully been injecting stem cells into people's discs and it causes a disc to regenerate
tissue and get thicker and healthier. >> Really? >> Yeah. Um, Shane Dorian, my friend, he's a prourfer and uh, big wave surfer and bow hunter. He he went down there and he
said it was remarkable. He said within a couple of months, like a 30 to 40% increase in range of motion, decrease in pain. Yeah, you could feel it. It's kind of an annoying process cuz once you do
it, you can't really do [ __ ] for like 6 weeks. Like once you I think it's 6 weeks. >> Well, that's what the same with the surgery. You're not doing [ __ ] for six
weeks after that. >> But you can't lift weights. You could walk. You can walk. You know, it's all it's the whole thing is like let everything take. Like let it take. Let
it heal up. >> Don't do anything stupid. Don't reinjure it. Don't aggravate it. Like give it a chance to actually do its magic. >> Yeah, I'll look into that for sure. But
any neck injury or back injury, they're such a [ __ ] Anytime your back goes out, you're like, everything you do is like, ah, it's so hard to do anything. It's like you realize like how
nice it is to be healthy when >> Yeah. >> You know, whenever you get hurt. >> Yeah. No, back pain. That's That's what killed my stepfather.
>> Back pain. >> Yeah. >> They just get on pills. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And I have a friend in the family
that did that. >> Yeah. He was in I remember one time we were fishing up in Wyoming and and he just he was like I can't do it. Back hurts too bad.
>> And he went in and had a surgery and that made it worse which is >> yeah which is a real real risk when you start messing around with the spine. Right.
>> Um >> and so yeah and then it was you know those are serious pain. Now we're talking Oxy. >> Yeah. Now you're in just agony. Now
you're on a clock. >> Yeah. And you can only do that [ __ ] for so long. >> Yeah. Now you're on a clock. >> Oxies are [ __ ] terrifying. They're so
terrifying. >> Yeah. >> So terrifying how readily they were handing them out too forever. >> Yeah.
>> Did you ever see Painkiller? That the Peter Berg thing that he did for Netflix? >> No, I didn't. >> [ __ ] great, man. So Matthew Brick
plays such a great creep. Oh, he played the Sackler brother. The Sackler. Yeah. the head of the family that started this whole opiate problem that we have in this country. It's [ __ ] terrifying
cuz it's all real. And those [ __ ] people never even went to jail. Who knows how many people are dead because of them. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> They generated [ __ ] billions and billions of dollars. Killed a bunch of people. Ruined countless lives. How many lives?
People that were connected. Your dad gets hooked on that [ __ ] It ruins your relationship with your your family. You you you wind up being all [ __ ] up because you grew up with a dad who was
strung out on pills. >> Yep. No. Generation >> Yeah. >> generational damage. >> Oh god. Yeah.
>> And these guys put their feet up. >> Yeah. They go to a [ __ ] nice country club and have the lobster. >> Yeah. >> [ __ ] suckers. There's so many of them in
this world. There's like that's genuinely evil. >> Yes. >> There's real demons. That's a real demon. Like people want to think demons
live in hell and you know that's that's kind of may may or may not be real. Well, no. They're on Earth. There's demons. >> They're right here.
>> Yeah. And they justify it. They figure out a way to justify it. And they're around a bunch of other people who justify it, too. And they can just immediately dismiss any pain or
suffering because they got a huge amount of profit from it. >> Yeah. Yep. Those are the [ __ ] >> Those are the [ __ ] Yeah. They're out
there. >> And And it doesn't take many of them to create like real carnage. I mean, think about that. Think about the opiate issue in this and it's still going. It was the
gateway to fentanyl, right? >> If you think about it. >> Yeah. It was the gateway to fentanyl and it was uh it was also it's like they were doing those pain man pain
management centers down in Florida >> where they just all they prescribed as pills. So you would go and like I'm in pain. They were like oh Taylor we've got the solution. It's right next door. And
you go right next door to their pharmacy and all their pharmacy has like they don't have Ben Gay over there. They don't have toothbrushes. >> Oxy.
>> Yeah. They got Oxy. >> Here you go, buddy. >> This is the solution. >> Yeah. >> [ __ ]
>> Yep. >> Yep. That's the real drug trade. >> Mhm. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I mean, the cartel is basically getting the scraps. They're making trillions of dollars off
scraps. >> Well, think about this. Did you even know what fentanyl was 15 years ago? I never heard of it. No, I don't even remember when we first heard about it,
but when we first heard about it on a podcast, we were talking about it and we found the amount that's lethal and they showed it next to a penny and you're like "What?"
>> Yeah, >> that can kill you. And people are taking that and they're mixing that in cocaine. Holy [ __ ] >> And they are bent over zombies on the
side of the road. >> Yeah. Philadelphia is bad, too. There's a bunch of cities that are just real bad with it. And it doesn't have to be that way. And what's interesting is this Iane
initiative that Rick Perry and Brian Huard are pushing in Texas and uh that I went to the White House to get Trump to be involved in. And they're trying to make this so that it's uh you have a
right to use or right I I think they call right to use or right to try for people that are addicted and they're trying to make it more readily available and accessible to veterans. That's the
thing that could help all these people. >> What is it now? >> Ibeane. Do you don't know what that is? Ibagane is a uh it comes from the aboga tree in Africa and it is this very
potent psychedelic that has no recreational use at all. It's not fun. Nobody likes it. It's not like you trip, you see zombies and [ __ ] hang out with the aliens. Uh-uh. you go into this
very dark experience for like 24 hours where it like replays your life to you in a very uncomfortable way and also somehow or another rewires addiction in your brain. And for a large percentage
of people, just one dose is good enough to get them off of everything, whatever they're on, whether it's alcohol, gambling, coke, whatever the [ __ ] it is. But for two doses, when they do it
twice, it's significantly better. And it doesn't just do that. Rick Perry, who was the Republican former governor of Texas, was staunchly anti-drugs. He's said this is his main focus in life now
is to promote this. This is his goal in life because he did it >> and he had an incredible reaction to it and he knows so many veterans who have done it. It's incredible for PTSD.
somehow or another it has neuro regenerative properties where he went there and they said he went to his doctor before and you know doctor did a whole scan of his body and he said look
you've got a certain amount of age related brain atrophy it's like it's fine but you know it's normal that you're 73 years old or 74 years old. So he goes and does the Ibagane uh sees his
doctor a short time afterwards and the doctor says you it's 25% less atrophy than when you got the last scan. and he's explains to him the whole Ibagane thing. He goes back six months later,
it's all gone. He has no brain atrophy anymore, which is bananas. So, it's regenerating brain tissue. It's making his brain work better, and it's just Well, the pharmaceutical companies
aren't going to let that [ __ ] out. >> Well, they they didn't like it. They didn't like that I bypassed them and went straight to Trump and told them about that. But Trump was very open to
it. He said, 'What are you looking for? You looking for FDA approval? Like, let's do it. Like, that's literally what he said. And then a week later, we were at the White House and he was signing
it. So, it's incredible. But if so many veterans have had to go over to mo mostly Mexico, but Costa Rica, there's a bunch of different places that they go where they can have these IBA retreats.
And these guys have had incredible results. Marcus Latrell, he had an incredible result from it. He had a real problem drinking. you know, obviously he's the guy, Lone Survivor, the the
movies based on his experiences over in Afghanistan. >> So, this guy, you know, he's he's done it. He's gotten over it because of that. Like, there's a a long Sean Ryan, long
list of guys who have had this experience and it completely changed them. >> Wow. >> Dakota Meyer did it. So many of these
guys did it. And because of their their stories, cuz all these veterans, then it like kind of opened up the idea to a lot more right-wing people that would maybe be like more hesitant to accept
something like this. Then on top of it, no recreational use. Like no one's like, "Boy, I can't wait to do that again." Everybody's like, "Holy [ __ ] this sucked. I had diarrhea. I threw up. I
felt I was horrified for [ __ ] 12 hours." Apparently just takes you through every aspect of your life like review like a movie. All the times you've ever hurt people, you see it from
their perspective, like Yeah. It's like very It's a very dark experience for a lot of people, especially a lot of people that have [ __ ] up a lot of their life, you know.
>> Wow. >> Yeah. But if those people had access to obain, all these homeless people that you see strung out, if instead of just giving them needles and an iPhone and
like profiting off of it, if somehow or another these [ __ ] can figure out a way to profit off of these centers, we could bring people in and give them ibame retreats. Maybe that would be a
nice little [ __ ] exit strategy for all these grifters that have been profiting off of the homeless industrial complex for so long. >> Yeah. No, you know, they're they're not
trying to solve problems. >> No, no, they're trying to make money. That's what I was saying earlier when we're talking about charities. That's the saddest thing that I come to the
realization that most nonprofits are [ __ ] scams. Like most of them. >> Most of them. And this guy was like reading off like the average amount that these people that are in charge of the
homeless program in LA are making. It's it's extraordinary amount of money. >> It's a great living. They're not doing it because it's like some sort of a very charitable thing that they really want
to save the world and help people. No, they're they're making tons of money at >> the at the they're for for they're performative entrepreneurs if you think about it.
Come up with a problem, then go pitch some version of Karen's solution to a government >> and take the [ __ ] money >> and never solve the problem. because as
soon as you solve the problem and if you do somehow accidentally solve it then go find another one. >> Yeah. And I think um that's one of the reasons why shows like Yellowstone in
particular that show like people that are proud to work hard and really get like deep satisfaction out of that life. And there's something about that that it really like it resonates with people
like there's a better way than just bullshitting people. There's a better way than fraud and and nonsense and all this political horseshit that's pumped down your throat every day. No. How
about a [ __ ] just a sleeping bag and the stars? How about that? Just lying there with your horse tied to a tree. Isn't that really what everybody wants? Isn't doesn't really every want to cook
their dinner over a fire and laugh with all their friends because that's what they really want. That's that really sounds good. >> Simple.
>> Something real. something that re that's like there's it's not that simple because it's hard to do all that [ __ ] but there's something about it that's pure. It's pure. There's no ifands, or
buts. >> You spend a lot of time outside, right? And and the entire thing is an endeavor, right? If you go on, you go bow hunting, you know, you're going to you're going
to practice, prepare before you go, then you're going to hike your ass in uh somewhere, you're going to have to set up a camp. Uh, and all of these are tasks before you've even gone to do the
thing you went there to do, which is going to be another task. But the completion of them is the reward. >> Yeah. >> And the fact that you're doing it
yourself, everything done yourself. I think that's and that's why people are so attracted to the life. That's why I've got, you know, third generation cowboys that went and got a degree in
ranch management to come back and make, you know, $3,000 a month and couldn't be happier. >> It's wild, isn't it? It's really wild when you think about it. It's wild what
people actually gravitate towards because they say that. Have you ever seen that Warner Herszog um documentary Happy People? >> No.
>> It's called Happy People, Life in the Tiger, and it's all about these trappers that live on the Tiger River in uh Siberia. And uh all these people do is trap and hunt and fish. They don't have
any other way to make a living. That's all they do. And they're so [ __ ] happy. And they're all laughing together and drinking together and hanging out with their dogs and their dogs are sled
dogs. And so they're on they're on snowmobiles and the dogs are chasing behind them and the dogs hunt with them. And these [ __ ] people have like zero mental illness. And when they're talking
to them, they're talking in Russian. So it's all translated. But what they're talking about like the way they talk, it's like that this is how you're supposed to live. This is real life.
And they're all happy. >> There's a guy I'm gonna get his name wrong. It's like Primager, something like that. Uh, and he
in the 60s. >> Dick Premikin. >> Preachkin. That's it. >> Yeah. Yeah. The guy who lived in Alaska. >> Yeah. Just went up said bucket.
>> Yeah. >> Went up into the way into the wild and built by hand a cabin and lived there and and documented it. Brought a little Super Eight camera, whatever, filmed the
whole thing. Yeah. and and filmed himself. I mean, he he lived for 35 years. He was 80 something years old when he finally was too old to to get through another winter when he came
down. And he just built this cabin and just lived, hunt, fished, grew >> potatoes, had to build. Prreni, that's how you say his name. >> Uh, P R O E.
>> If you haven't, if you haven't watched that documentary, it is fascinating. >> It's amazing. Yeah. Look at the different What is it? Oh, they Oh, just >> talking about it.
>> Oh, but why they show 2023? >> Um, this guy when he documented all of it, you know, it's so attractive. There's something about the way he's live and he's by himself, which is also
wild. Like, how do you not get lonely? >> No, there's that. >> I mean, I'd lose my [ __ ] marbles. I need people. I need to talk to somebody. I don't think I'd be liking that. But
it's so attractive. But the but the notion of that kind of self-reliance. >> Yeah. No, there's something about it that's like deeply ingrained in our DNA. It's not just that. It's like uh it's a
a healthy interaction with the the wild world. >> There he is. Look at that guy. Made all that [ __ ] himself. >> That's what's crazy.
>> Yeah. >> The whole the whole I mean he made his own tools. He made it was it's really w I think he was a Wasn't he a lumber man or something like that?
>> I can't remember if he was >> Look at [ __ ] pretty that is. My god. This is right in front of his house. You just build a house out there. Alaska is amazing, man. I mean, the
winters can suck a dick, but the just the actual being there in the place and the people are they're clearly like extraordinary people. Like when you go just even hanging out in a bar in
Anchorage, like you guys are different. They're like more reliable, >> you know, sturdier people. >> No matter where you live in Alaska, you're going to have to be tough.
>> Yeah, you have to be. And they were laughing about some guy who got stomped to death by a moose cuz he was throwing snowballs at it in town. Like, okay, like that's something you guys have to
think about. You you might get stomped to death in front of the ATM machine. >> Or maybe maybe don't throw a [ __ ] snowball at a thousand pound animal. Yeah. Well, you can catch a a cow with
their calves and she'll stump you no matter what. >> So, it's a book. Um, Prrenicki says he turned his back on a tedious on tedious 50-hour work weeks and moved to Alaska
to do a thing to completion. He built the cabin when he was 51 and lived there for more than 30 years. Wow. Wow. Where is that area? The Twin Lakes in Lake Clark National Park.
>> I don't know. There's another guy that lives up there that lives uh near the Arctic Circle. Um Vice Guide to Travel did a piece on him years ago. It's same kind of deal. He
lives in a cabin and uh he's been up in that cabin since the 1970s. He didn't he never saw 911. He saw a photograph of it years later. He's just been up there in the woods. All he does is he hunts
caribou and he has them all like hanging up like frozen because it's frozen outside. Like that's is outside as his cooler >> and while they're there a grizzly tries
to steal his stash and he has to shoot the grizzly. It's like it's crazy >> really. What's that called? >> It's called uh Vice Guide to Travel and it's Himmo's Arctic Adventure is the
video series. And what's interesting, this is like the early days of Vice when Vice was really cool. And they get this [ __ ] nerd with glasses. He's probably from like Williamsburg who flies out to
Alaska to hang out with this guy. And uh the guy this like these journalists were like hardcore. These young kids were they knew they were doing something kind of crazy. And they would go to war
zones. Like that's how Tim Pool started out. These guys would go to the [ __ ] war zones and get shot at. They had bulletproof vests on and [ __ ] they'd be doing investigate like real
investigative reporting. And so this guy did just really went up there and hung out with this dude in Alaska for like a week and was talking to him was like what's what's so great about this? And
he's a very intelligent guy. He's not a the guy who's this this guy. See if you can find that. Did you find it? >> I was looking around. There's I mean >> they're still posting stuff. They've
there's the last Alaskan Excuse me. The last Alaskans. >> Oh, he's still posting stuff. They have a YouTube channel. >> Oh, wow.
>> Himo and Edna. >> Oh. Oh, wow. He looks older now. >> They're just talking about podcast here a second ago. >> Oh, interesting. They're talking about
podcasts. >> Our podcast. >> Oh, because we talked about him. >> No, I mean just I just saw as you were your picture popped up.
>> Oh, that's it. That's me talking about him. Yeah. Uh see if you could find the Vice Guide to Travel because that's where I found out about him. So, this guy's he's like one of the last people
that's allowed to live up there. He has like a notice posted on his um his cabin because he's grandfathered in. I don't think you could build a cabin up there anymore.
That's not This is afterwards >> 15 years ago. >> Might be it. But I think it's called Himmo's Arctic Adventure. Yeah. Himo Himo Cor himo's Arctic
Refuge. That's the article. >> Yeah. I mean, device website isn't really one of the most well-kept things on the internet these days. >> Um,
put in Arctic Adventure. >> I'm guessing that the article was the first thing and then they went and followed up to make a video and that's what this is.
>> Yeah, I don't know if Yeah, maybe that's it. >> Yeah. See, it says it presents Himo's Arctic Refuge, >> right? That's probably it.
>> They could have just changed the name on YouTube also. >> I think they did. Or maybe I remember it wrong. Either way, this guy's premise is that this is really how you should live.
This is how people Yeah, that's the guy. So, you see this looking nerdy cat is hanging out. He looks so out of place. Yep. This is it.
and he's got this uh caribou that he shot and they're hanging frozen and he just saws off a piece and throws the frozen steaks onto the grill, cooks it over wood and this is how this guy lives
and that's all he eats. He's just eating caribou and salmon and he lives up there all year round, man. And it's uh I mean he's just very happy. And that this is the weird part about it is how happy
people who live like this are >> because I think that's in our brain. That's how we're designed to exist with nature. >> We're designed to be hunter gatherers.
>> You know, that's we still have the same DNA as people that lived tens of thousands of years ago. >> And you know, cities started what maybe 10,000 years ago in some
form right? >> Yeah. depending on who you ask, >> you know, I think we're a little wrong with that, too. I think they're starting to change their perspective of when
actual civilization emerged because of stuff like um Gobecley and Turkey. They found these immense structures that are 11,800 years old that were buried that this guy who was like a I think it was a
sheep herder in the 90s found it. >> Yeah. found like a stone that was like sticking out of the ground weird and he kicked it with his boots like knocking some dirt off and then he brought in
some archaeologists and then they discovered this massive complex these like huge circles of giant stone columns with 3D animals carved in them and they carbonated the ground and it was
intentionally covered up somewhere around 11,000 plus years ago. So they're like really Yeah. So like what the [ __ ] is this? Like they didn't even know like what the civilization was like what why
did they build this? What's the purpose of it? There's a lot a lot of people that debate whether or not what's depicted on it is a calendar. Is it a marking of an event? Does it show the
flood? Like what what is this? It's it's weird stuff, man. Like really weird stuff. And I think there's more of that than you'd like to that makes people comfortable. And archaeologists are very
hesitant to accept it. Well, that whole that whole deal, right? Like your relevance being upon you've discovered this thing and >> um you know when they when they found
the the Clovis point so then we're dating everything off of that and anyone finding anything else is going to render that guy's discovery less important.
>> Yeah. And you know there was at one point we thought there was this logical evolution of man from homo erectus into homo sapiion and now we know that there were at least four maybe five species of
humanoid living at the same time. >> Mhm. >> [ __ ] at least five. >> Not only that it's like really difficult to make a fossil. Most people are going
to die and their bones are going to be gone within a hundred years. >> Yeah. It's just what what we've been able to find and we're basing an entire science upon
incredibly incomplete discoveries. >> We're b we're basing entire science on a very limited number that can even possibly exist. Like I think if you take into account how many dinosaur bones
they found and then how many dinosaurs existed and for how many hundreds of millions of years dinosaurs existed and you realize like oh like most [ __ ] doesn't make a fossil. So, we don't even
know how many different dinosaurs that we've I mean, they just discovered a new one recently. There's We don't even know how many existed that we never found fossilized.
>> Yeah. If you if they didn't run through some lava pit or tar pit or something, how would you know? >> And every so often some new form of ancient human pops up and we're like,
"Oh, what's this one? What the [ __ ] is this one? There's weird ones. They're all over the place. There's a a [ __ ] ton of them. The Dennis Ovenanss. There's the the one in uh I believe it
was in China. The big-headed people that they're quite a bit larger. >> These are in Texas. >> Yeah, that's Glen >> Dinosaur Valley State Park. Wow.
>> That's Glen Rose, Texas. >> That's crazy. How crazy is that? Look at those footprints. That's so nuts. That is so nuts that a dinosaur left
those. How long ago? 113 milliony old dinosaur tracks. What the [ __ ] man? And you know, we're just lucky. >> So, what is he what you that thing and how much did it [ __ ] weigh to imprint
into that which is now granite, right? But at the time, it's probably some mixture of mud and ash from a volcano that came together, >> right? Probably
>> some version of that, >> right? I wonder what the animal was. Do they know which uh dinosaur it was? >> Picture of one here. I don't know if it's the I just guess that's the one
they assumed was there. God, those footprints are so dope. >> That's so wild. >> Wonder who the first guy found that was. >> Says it was discovered after a drought,
so it would have been >> Oh, that's even cooler. >> So, it was underneath the water the whole time and then they're like, "Holy." The river dried up completely in
most locations, line for more tracks to be uncovered here in the park. Wow, that's sick. That's the animal >> believed to be. I don't know. Yeah, they
wouldn't know for sure. >> Belonged to two types of dinos including Acroan canthosaurus. >> Yeah, I think I don't think they found
any fossils or anything to be for the record. >> That's even crazier, right? All you find is the feet. >> Think about how many died there. Think
about how many just got eaten by other animals and [ __ ] out. And I mean, most stuff that lives, I mean, you know as well as anybody. You very rarely find skeletons in the woods.
>> No, the mice are going to eat them. >> Yeah. Something's going to eat most of what you find in the woods. Within a couple of years, everything's gone. But like,
>> when was the last time like if you're a hunter? Good luck finding a dead mountain lion. >> They must die. They must die. I don't know anybody that's found a dead one.
>> I've never found one. I never seen one. >> There's thousands of them. They die. Where are they? >> [ __ ] nature takes care of everything. And that's what would happen to most
fossils. Yeah, >> that's why most fossils don't happen. I mean, when people die, they don't get fossilized. >> Says 1908, a local school boy found some
of these. >> Wow, look at the size of those next to that dude. That's crazy. >> Imagine you ran home and tried to tell your parents found some dinosaur. They
wouldn't even know what dinosaurs really were, I bet, back then. How would they have known? >> Well, there's a lot of people today that don't even think dinosaurs are real,
which is hilarious. >> There's so many so many knuckleheads online. But I mean, we don't we we have a very limited amount of information that we're
basing our the entire history of Earth on planet. >> What do you describe that as a 1910 >> three-toed giant >> lizard? I don't even know what
>> I How would you even be sure that that was a footprint? >> Come look at this. Then you got to go tell everybody else in the town to come follow you out there to find it.
>> Right. In 1910, did they even have drawings of dinosaurs? Well, I would I would think they would have found some of the bones. >> I'm sure. I think we figured that out,
right? I think we talked about that. Didn't they first start finding them in the 1800s? Isn't that what it was? >> But yeah, it's not I mean, if you think about how many different things died and
just were absorbed by the earth, just eaten [ __ ] out, swallowed up, just destroyed by time and erosion, and never became fossils. We're we're basing the entire history of the planet on a
limited amount of information. And that information, it never gets younger. It always gets older. The more stuff they found, >> like they found a modern version of
human beings that pushes the timeline of humans back another three or 400,000 years. And that keeps happening. Well, they they they thought that people crossed the Bearing Land Bridge 12,000,
>> 14,000 years ago, and now they've pushed that back 10,000 years. >> Yeah. They found the those footprints in White Sands, New Mexico, and those are 22,000 years old.
>> It took a giant flood to come wash away layers of sediment >> that revealed that. That's why it's so muddy around it, I guess. >> Wow.
>> And then they started digging. >> That's [ __ ] cool. >> That is so cool. And this is in 1952 they did that. >> No, no, no. 1908.
>> 908. >> The pictures are from 1952 or something. Okay. So, it must have just kept Maybe it flooded again 50 years later. >> Floods do happen here fast.
>> When did they first figure out dinosaurs? Like what was the first year a dinosaur bone was discovered on your ranch? Do you find like a lot of like arrowheads and like Native American
stuff? the one I grew up on. Everywhere. >> Yeah. >> Every time it had rain, >> you'd find these points. >> Dutch enthrals me. It's so fascinating.
You pick up some arrow. I found one in Nevada while I was on a mu deer hunt. I was in the high desert. We found this little tiny thing. I look down. I go, "Oh my god, it's a [ __ ] arrowette."
And you just think some dude who knows how many hundreds of years ago shot at a deer. Maybe >> thousands. Yeah. We found a bunch and and my mother took them to Fort Worth to
the museum and they dated them and some of them and they they could look at them and they'd know various styles, right? And they go, "Oh, this was made by this is 2200 years old. This 4,000 years old.
This is when they started doing this." >> We have one here. I got one here somewhere. It's a big one, too. >> 1677 was when the first scientifically recorded dinosaur bone was described.
Although it says they've been digging people have been digging them up for thousands of years, but >> they didn't know what the [ __ ] it was. >> This one says he even thought it
belonged to a giant human. >> And then >> this is one from here. >> Oh yeah. >> Yeah.
>> Look at that. >> Yeah. A friend of mine got that off of his ranch. Remy Warren told me that's probably one they use for fishing cuz it was so big.
>> Interesting. >> Yeah, I thought so, too. I was like, that's interesting. Because I guess when you're dealing with old bows that didn't have a whole lot of power, they you
really wouldn't want a big wide cut because you wouldn't get enough penetration to get through the rib cage unless you're really close. >> This would be more on a spear.
>> No, it would be on a arrow. It would just be something that you shot at a fish because it's easier to penetrate than like say a buffalo, >> right?
>> Where they would use a smaller head. >> They're just trying to get penetration. >> That's fascinating. It's just an amazing thing. You're finding just this piece of ancient history where people had no
internet, no books, no nothing. Just flintnapping and using tendons. Yeah. >> And then trying to practice with those bows and figure out how to do it while
you're on horseback, too. >> It's crazy. >> Wild. So, where you grew up, the on the ranch you grew up, you'd find them all the
time? >> All the time. >> What was the oldest [ __ ] you found? >> Man, I I I can't remember, but but I remember it being thousands of years
old. A few thousand years old, but we had we had a like my mother had this wicker basket that was like this big and and it was full of arrowheads.
>> Yeah. Wow. >> You'd find them just toss them in there. >> That's crazy. Yeah. >> Just makes you think like how long did people live on that land? How many
hundreds thousands of years do people live on that land? >> Yeah. Yeah. And and or pass through or have battles or who [ __ ] knows? >> Yeah.
>> Or or or when you find them like we found them. I mean, every single time it rained you, there was this stock tank behind our house and you maybe it's half mile up to the stock tank. We walk that
road and you you could find four or five. So, was that a trading depot? Was that some place where people went to trade and then I always think like how do you
lose that many? >> As hard as they must be to make. >> You'd think once you've shot that arrow, you're going to go look for the arrow. >> Yeah.
>> Because you spent hours making this >> this >> They must have shot so many for so long. They I mean, they're probably shooting them every day. They probably had
somebody back at camp making them every day. >> There's probably some guy that that's his skill. >> Yeah.
>> Maybe that maybe when people got older, they couldn't couldn't hunt, couldn't run, >> right? You know, >> maybe
>> they sat back and >> Right. >> Yeah. And that guy makes the arrows and maybe somebody else makes the bows and this guy's going out and shooting the
deer and bringing them back. When you're doing a show like 1823, how much research did you have to do to try to get that right? Because that was, in my opinion, one of the best
theatrical things that that I ever watched, movie or television show, that I feel like nailed what it must have been like to try to travel across the country to be a civilized person living
in the city and try to make your way across the country and just experience the wild [ __ ] those people saw. >> Well, there's a few things. So, a lot of research, but interestingly, I had
uh my family had come, one side of my family had come from Kentucky to Texas in the 1840s and whatever great great-grandmother journaled. >> Wow.
>> So, I had the journal. Um, >> holy [ __ ] >> And uh and then I started finding other journals. there wasn't, you know, some were published and and reading about
just how [ __ ] dangerous it was if you think about it. Um, rivers were the most terrifying thing crossing rivers cuz no one swam. No one could swim. And most of the most of the people who
came into either the port of New Orleans or Galveastston, they were European. They were German, a lot of Germans. There were a lot of um central Europeans that came uh and and they were promised
free land, right? there would be travel agencies that they would arrange the entire trip with before they've even left Germany or Croatia or wherever they were. And uh and so by the time that
they landed in Galveastston, they would meet up with their group and the group would, you know, they'd have chipped in all this amount of money and they've got guides and they would have already
arranged for mules or horses and and wagons and uh and off they go. And >> and they had no idea. >> No. And they a lot of them had never [ __ ] ridden a horse in their life,
much less fired a gun, much less you they're in a completely foreign area. Like they don't and they landed in Texas, most of them heading to Oregon, uh
because that area was the most similar to where they were from in central Europe. And then, you know, for whatever reason, they didn't some didn't get that far. Some maybe never got past Waco or
Fort Worth or wherever. Um and then off they went and and the dangers were from obviously rivers and sun exposure, disease. Um obviously there were issues with bandits
and the Native American tribes depending on the time of year that that the era, right? By the 80s that was largely not an issue, the 1880s. Um, but bandits sure [ __ ] were a real issue because
there's no rule of law. >> Right. >> Right. And we can look at there's plenty of bad people doing awful [ __ ] today and we got all sorts of laws. Now imagine if
those people had the wherewithal to go to a place to where there's no laws, >> no law and no enforcement, no help, no nothing. You're on your own. >> You on your [ __ ] own. And there was a
bunch of people that had been living like that for decades. Just [ __ ] people up, >> waiting for you. >> Just waiting for you. Waiting for you.
Here they come. Let's get them. >> And that was what their thing was. >> Yeah. No. The So river crossings were incredibly dangerous. Um and then trying to if you didn't have an
experienced guide, you're [ __ ] Truly [ __ ] Because you could pick the wrong way and run out of water. Go wander around in the circle. So you get up there on the great plains to where it's
flat and there's and you don't know how to read the sun, you don't know where you're going. People go out there and make giant circles. >> Yeah. I was reading something about that
the other day that people tend to for whatever reason always walk in a counterclockwise um direction when they get lost. And that even if they're left or
right-handed or left-handed, it doesn't seem to matter. Humans when they walk, if they get lost like in the woods, they walk in circles and they almost always walk in a counterclockwise direction.
And so this article was uh explaining that if you find yourself lost and you think you're running into the same places, most likely you should veer towards the right because you're you're
most likely looping towards the left. For whatever reason, people tend to do that. Wonder if there's like a scientific explanation. See if there's put that in perplexity.
See why people move in a counterclockwise. >> It didn't come up with anything. >> Perplexity doesn't know [ __ ] Doesn't have any woodsmanship.
>> I never understood getting lost in the wilderness. I didn't understand it. >> Really? >> I can understand not knowing where you are.
>> But you know, but I never understood getting lost. >> Do you Well, you must have learned how to use a compass early. >> Yeah. Or or the sun.
>> Yeah. >> Right. If the sun comes up in the morning and you're facing it, right, then behind you is west, to your left is north, to your right is south.
>> Some people have zero experience in the woods though. >> People tend to loop often counterclockwise when lost because small errors in our internal sense of straight
ahead accumulate. And humans also have a subtle left turn counterclockwise bias whose exact cause is still unclear. Isn't that weird? Wow, that's so weird. In lab and field experiments,
blindfolded people tend to walk straight without landmarks. Almost always end up curving into large loops instead of moving in a straight line. People told rather to walk straight without
landmarks. >> Wow. This happens because without internal clues or external clues like the sun, distant objects or visible path, small random errors in balance and
body feedback build up until the path bends enough to close into a circle. Wow. That's got to be so disheartening. You've been walking for days and then
you pass the same dead tree and you're like, "Oh my god, we walked in a [ __ ] circle." Pedestrians everywhere exhibit a counterclockwise bias, wired to walk counterclockwise. During COVID,
scientists studying social distancing noticing people seem to prefer moving counterclockwise. That's so weird. Hm. Tendency is fundamentally individual rather than a collective.
What does that mean? Um, so every individual does it, I guess, rather than a group of people just following the leader. >> Pretty wild.
So when people get lost, some but some some people have just zero experience being in the woods at all and they just don't know where to go. They where are we? And they just they just [ __ ]
freak out and then they panic because they think what's out there? Oh my god, I'm gonna die. >> Yeah. And you realize that once you're out
there that nature doesn't give a [ __ ] if you make it. >> No. >> Doesn't care >> at all.
>> No. >> As it's heartless, completely oblivious to your desire to stay alive. It's not interested in what you want to do at all.
>> Nope. Nope. Not at all. It's ambivalent. And >> but that's also part of the beauty of it right? >> Yeah.
>> When you're out there, >> especially if you take yourself seriously. >> Yeah. you're out there, you're like, "Oh, I ain't shit."
It'll it'll test you. >> Yeah. When you're writing a a thing like 1823, like you're doing all this research and you read the the diaries from your you said your
great-grandmother. Is that right? >> Like great great grandmother. >> Did you uh did you ever think like putting some of those letters online so other people can read them?
>> No. There's plenty of there's there's any number of published books of very similar journals. >> I know. But it' be kind of dope for
people to read about your great great grandmother. >> Yeah. And nothing happened, right? Like it sucked. It was cold. We had freaking whatever weird [ __ ] they had for dinner
that night and you know so and so was rude and you know it was this and we you know we stopped in this beautiful valley and it was hard to get across the river and I was scared and you know but no
attacks no it was pretty uneventful. >> They got lucky. >> It's just it's interesting just as a window into time. >> Yes. you know.
>> Well, what's interesting really is how well written the journal was. >> Right. Cuz everyone >> was very educated. >> Was better educated.
>> Yes. >> Yeah. Yeah. And Yeah. That's that's weird, right? When you read like Civil War letters and you're like, why are these guys so
[ __ ] smart? >> I have letters from my grandfather who died in World War II. Love letters from him to his to my grandmother. um years of them cuz you know he they listed in
1941 and and then went off and became a he they flew a I guess it was the B19 flew a bomber um and uh yeah and wrote all these letters to her um yeah and I have all those and they're just
magnificent just the way that people would just be so eloquent in a letter to you know your wife. >> Yeah. My beloved, they would write
things like that. >> Yeah. >> It is weird like the deterioration of our ability to express ourselves, the common person's ability to express
themselves. Like you wouldn't have expected that back then. I bet if you could tell people about the future, you go, "Oh, you're going to have the answer to any
question on your phone. You have a small device in your pocket. It's also acts as a flashlight. You're going to be able to pick that thing up and ask it anything you want and in instantaneously it's
going to give you a result. Like, oh, people must be brilliant. No, no, they're half [ __ ] because they didn't learn anything, >> right?
>> Right. You can ask a machine, the machine's done all the learning. You just get an answer that you didn't earn. >> Right. >> That's the word.
>> Earn. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Just like equity. The problem with equity is you didn't earn it. Yeah, >> the problem with uh having the same
results as everybody else when you don't put the same effort. People in the 1800s often spent blocks of time, typically one to three hours at a stretch on letterw writing and heavy correspondence
could easily spend several hours most days. Wow. Most people treated correspondence as a regular daily or weekly task similar to a modern email block excepting that it would be take a
significant chunk of their time. Wow. I mean, how important was the [ __ ] mailman back then? >> Everything. >> The guy was everything.
>> Everything. >> Some dude on a horse with a [ __ ] bag of letters. >> Nuts. >> For a quarter. I mean, how much did they
charge? A quarter was a lot of money back then. Probably was less than that. >> Yeah, probably half a penny or something if they had a Well, they did have a half penny. Do how much do you enjoy writing
that kind of a show versus writing a show like Lioness or like Land Man? Like what what is your Do you have a favorite or do you like all of them? >> No, I I I can't say I I have a I have a
favorite necessarily. You know, the fun thing about Lionus, which is sort of I can't say it's ripped from the headlines because I don't I I've tried to be um
I've tried to guess what's going to happen politically and then fictionalize that. Um and the fact that I've managed to be right [ __ ] wild. I thought surely in season
two when I when I when I said that the cartels had been listed as terrorist organizations, I'm like this this could be my 18-month cancel vacation coming. Um and then it
[ __ ] happened and then it came out and you know the show came out within weeks of that and and I looked I looked really >> like a soothsayer.
>> Yeah. Um, so that it it's a lot of fun because it's so political and and it's not it doesn't choose a political side. It just looks at the the trade craft of espionage and and how it's it's
intermingles with our military and and and it's just fascinating [ __ ] to me. Just fascinating. >> But there's so many different things that you have to be aware of to write
the [ __ ] that you write, you know? Like um is the Harrison Ford one 1923? Is that what it is? That one is fascinating, too, because you got the guy who goes off to Africa and, you
know, and he comes back and you got all these people that are trying to steal land. So, it's not totally lawless, but it's on the border of lawlessness. >> Yeah. You're you're you're watching, you
know, Montana in the 20s was fascinating. is a fascinating place because you've got the 20th century of the industrial revolution in full swing >> and you have washing machines and
refrigerators and telephones and electricity and then you still >> you're still traveling by horseback, right? Um so it very very interesting and so so that that's a really fun thing
to explore, right? >> That one dude who was the evil rich guy on that show he killed it. Tim >> Oh my god. That's right. Tim Dalton >> who was Bond at one point in time,
right? Yeah. Crazy. >> Yes. Yeah. >> My god, does he play a good [ __ ] creep. >> Twisted.
>> So good. >> Yeah. >> I forgot that it was Tim Dalton. That's how good it was. >> Yeah. My wife watched that and looked at
me like, "How'd you think that [ __ ] up, dude?" Like, I got the side eye for There's a couple of scenes where she's like, "Bro, what are you thinking?" >> Yeah, there's a couple scenes I wondered
myself. I was like, "This is rough." I was like I was like that's evil. >> Some of the SNM stuff was like she's pretty twisted. >> But there's people like that in the
world. >> 100%. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I had to re I'll tell you what my my computer I just assume that the CIA
and FBI have like a whole team because the [ __ ] I look up when I'm researching like how to make a bomb SNM practice CIA hot regions in the Middle East and it's all at once, right?
>> Yeah. Yeah, there's no way they're not looking at your phone. >> No, they're looking at it going, "Uh, Taylor's writing something new. Look at this."
>> I think anybody that has any influence, they probably look at your [ __ ] no matter what anyway, which is also dark. Like, we don't even know how much actual real spying on people is occurring.
We're just guessing. >> No, we don't have any idea. Um, I think within the world of tradecraftraft, a tremendous amount. >> Oh, yeah. I think within the world of I
mean within that world I think it's >> how when you're writing that how difficult is it to really keep your finger on the pulse of what's actually going on with espionage and like what
tools they actually have available like are you making some up? >> No, I mean most of the I mean I'm sure there is some extremely high tech trade craft going on right for sure. um
tracking devices and various things, satellite imagery, facial recognition, all of these things. But a lot of it's also very low tech by it by design because it's harder to it's harder to
trace, right? Um and and it's a lot of leverage and manipulation. Uh you're either bribing someone with money or blackmailing them. And that's typically those those are the two tools that that
are being used the most um in tradecraft and in and the spy game, right? That's really you you're it's leverage leveraging individuals and they're all doing it
>> everybody, right? every single and then if you look at some of the and again I'm not getting on any completely apolitical but from a trade craft standpoint what the
MSAD was able to do with all those [ __ ] cell phones and pagers and [ __ ] like you want to talk about play the long game >> like build this dummy company sell all
these get all these devices to all of these people who are your enemy and then start setting them off years later to detonate. >> Insanity.
>> I mean, it's genius. It really is >> insanity. >> Not endorsing it, but just saying, >> no, but if >> the actual act of doing it
>> to look at the patience and the planning and the risks and and that that they were able to execute that is is shocking. >> When you saw that in the news, did you
think if I wrote that, no one would [ __ ] buy it? Dude, I do that all the time with the news. >> The Maduro rate, if I had written that, >> right?
>> No one would. No. >> Right. They'd be like, "That's too simple. The [ __ ] out of here." Somehow it goes down. >> Yeah.
>> Even the bin Laden raid a helicopter crashed. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. The fact that they were able to
and I know it wasn't as as smooth as it was led on to be, but the fact that no one died, not an American in invading the Venezuelan military base in the middle of Caracus. It's [ __ ] insane.
>> It seems like it went pretty smooth. Do you think it went less smooth than they're saying? I'm sure that there's elements of like I'm sure right I don't know how many the one thing I've learned
with all my research into the military is any of these operations there's there's a there's actually a line in in the upcoming line is where someone says did it go smooth and the the guy says
well smooth as these things go right because that's because just by the very nature you start sticking a bunch of people in helicopters with guns and you know shit's going to happen right um but
the fact that there were no casualties that no one was killed, no American was killed is incredible. >> Yeah, it is incredible. It's pretty groundbreaking. Like this is like a new
benchmark for what could be possible in terms of an invasion at least of a third world country. It's just shocking the difference in the technology that the United States possessed versus them.
Well, >> and whether or not they were even available that no knew rather that that stuff was available. >> Yeah, war is going to change very very
quickly. um with drones, AI and and drones are going to alter the landscape of war. Um we're g we're getting real close to some Terminator [ __ ]
>> Yeah. >> And I'm not saying that like it's a good thing. >> No. >> Um it it's a it's a it's a very very You
talk about adolescence of of us as a as a species. We're seeing an adolescence in the teenage years of new a new type of warfare. And and when it grows up, it is going to be a beast. A beast.
And I've just think about it. You You can, you know, now they've got drones that are the size of airplanes. They can have a payload that is devastating, right? Beyond just simply a predator
drone that's got a couple hellfire missiles or whatever it may have. Um, and someone sitting in a ConX in the desert in Nevada can fly that thing halfway around the world. Or don't have
anyone fly it. Pre-program it and the thing flies itself. And that's you give give the drone a mission and send the drone off to do the mission and it's fully automated.
>> Yeah, >> that's some terrifying [ __ ] >> I bet a lot that's a lot of what this UAP [ __ ] is too. I bet it's experimenting with that type of
technology with some sort of a novel propulsion system because they were working on novel propulsion systems way back in the 50s and the 60s. >> They were working on anti-gravity in the
60s. >> I don't think I don't think we're there. >> I don't know. >> I don't think we're there. >> I don't know. I don't know where we're
at. >> I don't either. >> I don't know where we're at, but I'm not convinced. I'm not convinced that they haven't done something. In fact, Eric
Weinstein makes some really interesting um connections between there's a college in upstate New York, a university in upstate New York that has a very overqualified physics department and
it's connected to a hedge fund that does bigger than Bernie Maidoff type numbers. And he's like, "The whole thing stinks to high heaven." and he goes, "And I have a feeling that there's some sort of
an undisclosed or a top secret above, you know, top secret access program that's going on." >> Oh, I can promise you there's something. >> Yeah.
>> I've always thought a possible solution to petroleum as far as transportation goes, and I wonder why they've never tried it, is is using
magnetic force. Right? If you have you take a positive and negative charge and you they're going to come together. But if you take a positive and positive
or negative negative, they're going to I'm no [ __ ] scientist, but you know, it's going to repel, right? We've taken magnets and they push each other away. Well, how can how can we not use that if
you had a vehicle and the base of it is essentially a positive charge or a negative, whatever it takes to make the magnets repel. And then your road base
was essentially the similarly charged metal. Wouldn't that wouldn't that make it so much? >> Wouldn't you have to redo all the roads >> to make something like that real
>> or or put it in the road? >> Yeah, maybe. I mean, it certainly could be a potential source of transportation for the future. But I think the things that they're doing now probably relates
to some sort of anti-gravity propulsion system. And um then there was that, you know, I'm sure you're aware of this. All those scientists that went missing or wound up being murdered.
>> Yeah, dude. >> How [ __ ] sketchy is that? >> Oh, it's a coincidence. >> From Los Alamos all up there at the nuclear Yeah.
>> coincidence. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Who knows? I mean, who knows what the [ __ ] those people are working on and
whether or not they made breakthroughs and they don't want other people to know or whether or not they want to stop the breakthrough because they're aligned with whatever the conventional
propulsion systems are and they don't want to lose money. This thing makes them obsolete. They get set back to science for a few years >> or tradecraft is it is it Russian or
Chinese or Iranian that Yeah. Oh, sure. And that's the other thing that Weinstein was saying is like it's really shocking how little these incredibly important scientists are protected.
>> Yeah. >> They're just [ __ ] driving their Volvo to the university and working on top secret [ __ ] >> Yeah.
>> And no one's making sure they don't get whacked by China. >> Yeah. Yeah. I' I'd be curious and when they look into that, what was it 11 of them in a year?
>> 15 over a course of a few years. And some of them people are not they're going this could be coincidence. But there's a few of them where it's like okay these people like this lady was
specifically working on spacecraft metallurgy. This guy was specifically working on cold fusion. This guy was specifically like there's a bunch of them where you go okay
>> something's weird. Something's weird here. >> Yeah. >> Enough to the fact that the government's looking into it. They're like okay there
might be something here. So the justice department's investigating it. They're trying to figure out what the connection is and what could have happened. But it's, you know, it's hard after the fact
to try to figure out who did something, especially if somebody got hired from another country. Like, they're not going to tell you. Like, how are you going to know? You didn't catch him. Did you not
catch him when they killed the guy? Okay. Well, you're probably [ __ ] >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's It's 15. >> Yeah.
>> And they're all from that area, aren't they? Los Alamos around >> I don't know. I'm not sure. I think that's part of the problem. It's like there's whenever you have a thing like
this where people start looking for connections, they can make some connections that aren't necessarily valid. And so like let's say if there's 15, let's say 10 of them, 10 of them are
[ __ ] >> Yeah. >> That means five aren't [ __ ] If you know if that's true, that's a lot. It's five super [ __ ] brilliant people that
got whacked. >> Yeah. And it's it's interesting that you'd have that many in this specific field in this period of time. >> Yeah.
and and they're not, you know, you I would think of a scientist as being pretty [ __ ] healthy, right? And >> I don't know about that. I think a lot of them are just in their
own head, you know, and they're probably not even paying attention to their body. >> Did they all disappear? >> Different people died from different things. And one of one of the weirder
ones was this one lady who was uh I think she's the metallergy lady where she was hiking with her friend and uh they were just hiking together and the friend turned around to talk to her and
she was gone and she was just behind her like 30 seconds before they couldn't find her. They brought in cadaavver dogs. They brought in search parties. Never found her. And I think they might
have found her body recently. They see they found I think there was a report a few days ago that they might have found her body. I'd be I'd be looking real close at the
friend. Just that's just me. That's just me >> as a guy who writes scripts. >> Hey, so so me and Joe went for a hike. I turned around. That fucker's gone.
>> Hey, I don't know where I looked everywhere. >> I mean, I swear I had just talked to him 30 seconds ago >> and he's he's just not there. I don't
know. >> No sign of struggle. It's weird. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Like a husband and wife go hiking and the lady falls off the cliff.
They're like, "Hey, buddy." >> Yeah. >> What the [ __ ] happened? You guys arguing? Can I see your text messages? >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. Or the one that just fell off the boat. >> Oh, what happened there? >> Uh I I I don't want to say it wrong, but
I think she I think it was out in the Bahamas. >> I read about it. She She >> Was it a cruise ship one? >> No, no, no. It was him and his lady and
they're out on a sailboat or something and >> Oh, she whoop off the side. >> Yeah, he had to Yeah. Something something weird.
>> Well, go they're not buying it. >> Goes all the way back to the Natalie Wood story. You ever look into that one? >> Oh, yeah. That's right. >> Her and Walkin and Robert Wagner on
that. >> Yeah. And Robert Wagner and her had a big fight apparently. >> And then she just >> Whoops.
>> Yep. >> Not the same person as the Metallergy. >> Oh, which one is this lady? But she was one of the scientists, correct? >> Uh,
>> I believe she was one of the missing scientists. >> She was definitely missing for a year. Which one was she? >> I mean, I don't know what I don't know
which ones are >> what was her specialty. >> Doesn't she's missing lab worker? >> Does it say what she worked on? >> Nope.
>> No, administrative assistant. Yeah, I remember this lady. Yeah. >> The other one was uh her name is Reza. And the RESA one that lady she was
the one that has the uh so she served as a director of NA uh NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory and she was in the materials processing group. She se specialized in burn resistant high strength metal
alloys and rocket propulsion metals and wasn't she one that had like a we some weird videos what she had made? >> I don't know. Anyway, the whole thing's creepy as [ __ ]
>> Wow. And she was hiking in the Angeles National Forest. >> Yeah. >> Outside of Pasadena. >> Yeah.
>> That could actually just be a [ __ ] mountain line. >> It could be, >> you know, >> or it could be a lady who's working on
top secret rocket propulsion [ __ ] metals. >> And like this lady's a problem. >> Wasn't there some some town? I want to say it's Arcadia in California. They the
the the mayor of that city. >> Yeah. Yeah. Arcadia. >> Yeah, she was a Chinese spy. >> I would have to think if you're if you've rec How many people have you
recruited that you finally go, "Well, [ __ ] it. Let's try and get the mayor of Arcadia. We got We got everybody else." >> Yeah. They probably like worked her into position to run as mayor, you know? I
mean, >> and then and then with the hopes of she was relatively young, right? Um, maybe you go run for a state rep and then you run for Congress and
>> be the [ __ ] president. >> There was uh there was a thing in the 70s called ABSCAM. Do you remember this? >> Yeah. >> Where there were all of these
politicians, a few congressmen, some state reps, uh, and they were all like Russian spies or or at least on the take. >> Right.
>> Right. All of them Soviet >> Soviet spies. >> Did you ever see that show with the Americans? >> Uh-uh. I didn't either, but I heard it
was great. It was all about sleeper cell Russian family that was pretending to be normal. >> Yeah, that's fascinating. >> Yeah, that's real. They did that. They
really had Russian agents pretending to be American citizens. >> Oh, I wouldn't say had. I would say have >> Oh, yeah. No. Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah. And Chinese. Yeah, for
sure. >> For sure. >> 100%. >> Yeah. >> No, plenty of them.
>> 100%. >> Yeah. >> Boy, how many Israeli agents are in Hezbollah or in Hamas? Like probably >> or in the IRGC.
>> Yeah, probably. They probably got a bunch of those guys in there. >> 100%. >> Yeah, it's just wild. >> [ __ ] it's tradecraftraft, man. That's
a [ __ ] whole other thing. >> How hard is it to write about that stuff and like get it right to get it accurate? >> I mean, you
I don't know. You You speculate a lot and you look at at the past, right? Because there's been enough. It's funny because when they get caught never it's never that big a deal. Like there always
some uh it it doesn't for whatever reason the the news doesn't there's we could pull it up. There's been any number of Chinese scientists over here and they were stealing this
and they caught doing this. It happens all the time. >> Um >> see the ones that got caught trying to bring in bio they were they're trying to
bring in >> but what were they trying to bring in? Diseases or something something? I think I was looking there's another one in Vegas recently, but it's like they have
these bolabs that are like being run out of like an apartment or something. >> CCP linked bolabs in American soil exposes major bio security gaps. Policy makers must act to improve oversight and
biological research activity. Wasn't there a guy that got busted that was an Israeli agent and he got released and he took >> That's the one I think was in Vegas. I
was pull that up. >> That's the one in Vegas. Yeah. So this guy, he had all these [ __ ] diseases in his garage. >> 1,200 samples.
>> That's conclusion the conclusion of the FBI lab that the community could not be harmed by what was contained in that lab. What? Finding possible biological laboratory
in a garage. Inside, investigators found refrigerators with vials containing unknown liquids. police said in the immediate aftermath, the home is also operated as an unlicensed short-term
rental. What is this [ __ ] guy doing? Why? So, the qu go up up. Yeah. So, the question is, why does somebody have this materials in a private residence? It's
not a doctor, not a lab, not a licensed medical facility of any sort. And then Homeboy got released. >> Yeah, but check out the names on some of the vials.
>> Oh boy. They located pathogenlabeled containers with labels such as denge fever, HIV, and malaria along with a thousand mice or according to a federal report. Federal government never tested
the items and the CDC only made its determination based on the labeling. What? What the [ __ ] So in that case, Chinese citizen David He faces federal charges for allegedly
manufacturing and distributing misbranded medical devices. >> He does not face charges. >> He does not face charges connected to the Las Vegas raid and a trial in
California was scheduled for April. What the [ __ ] Just a bunch of vials of HIV and AIDS and [ __ ] deni fever and malaria. No worries.
>> Jesus. >> Normal. >> So, what was the Israeli guy? The guy who owned the lab. There was a like an Israeli guy who they caught who own and
then they released him and he went back to Israel and everybody's like, "Hey, >> what?" >> That's the same case. I think it says feds drop case against man arrested in
Las Vegas Bolab investigation. >> What's his name? >> Ory Solomon. >> Oh, Oie. What were you doing? Ary, Ary, why do you have the HIV? Aie, there he
is. Fed's dropped case against man arrested in Las Vegas Bolab investigation. Yeah, I mean, why investigate? Let it go, guys. No big deal.
>> He had he was only charged with illegal possession of a firearm in Nevada. >> His immigration status precluded him from owning or possessing a gun. Well, listen, if he doesn't have a gun, how
the [ __ ] is he going to defend all his malaria? People try to steal malaria, bro. Got to be careful. >> Oh boy. >> Yeah, it just doesn't seems like someone
made that go. >> There's too much [ __ ] [ __ ] in the world to pay attention to and too much of it is so disheartening. The more you look into it, the more you're like, is
it all [ __ ] Is the whole world [ __ ] Like, what is going on? and and and my guess is because there are so many different two
things, right? There's so many different there's no secrets with the internet and social media and phones. Shit's getting out, but it's also getting out at such a volume that none of it seems to have an
impact. >> Right. Right. >> Just so much. >> Right. >> Think about that in the 1990s.
>> Right. They're talking about that on Night Line and this and that and Meet the Press and Chinese spy. That's an Israeli, you know. >> Uhhuh.
>> That's news. But now it's just another >> the news cycle of flood. It's like you you you drop a rose petal in the river while floods going by. Like it's gone. >> Yeah.
>> It's here. It's gone. >> And it's a sensory overload. And >> Mhm. >> And and people are tuning it all out. >> They're tuning it all out also because
nothing ever gets done. and nothing happens. And the more people like that get released, the more people like Ah, they throw their hands in there. They'd rather just
>> watch sports. >> Yeah. Yeah. Just forget about it. >> Yeah. >> Well, >> I can't believe Simon Sushu didn't send
you my book. >> Yeah. Well, I don't know what happened, but I'll listen to it on audio tape. I'm glad you did the audio tape, though. >> Yeah,
>> that's important. >> Yeah. Pull up the You're going to [ __ ] love it. It's It's oddly entertaining and informative. >> How did you have the time to write a
book? >> So, what So, >> you're writing 150 different TV shows. >> So, so you know what it is? Do you know anything about it?
>> No. >> Pull it up. I just want to I'm going to try and I don't even want to tell you what it's called. I just want you to see the title.
>> How to not die in prison. >> I told you you're gonna like it. >> So, here's the So, so here's the deal. Um, so when I lived in LA, there was a gym
on Beverly Boulevard right at like Beverly and Sweetzer and everybody called it Buns on Beverly because they had all the the the treadmills kind of right up there and all the girls are
there and if you get stuck in traffic, you're staring at all their asses. And that was my gym. So me and a buddy of mine shared an apartment together and we'd jog down there and work out every
day. And there was this dude that showed up and started working out in there and this dude was jacked but different than like the West Hollywood fit. Like this [ __ ] was yolked and had all these
crazy tattoos on him and and we became kind of like friendly and uh and ended up kind of becoming friends and his name's Tom Nelson. And one day I'm like so uh what have you been doing? He goes,
"Well, you know, I'm just start a personal train I'm going to start personal training here." I was working over at the vitamin shop. guy's like in his 40s. Like vitamin shop in your 40s?
That's kind of weird. And I said, 'Yeah. Um, have you always lived in uh California? He's like, "Well, I've been here 19 years." 20 years. Yeah. Yeah. I said,
"Where you from?" "Somewhere in the southeast." I said, "You always live in LA." He goes, "Well, no, I just got to LA." "See, I've been in prison." I said, "Oh,
how long?" "17 years." I said, "Oh." And I didn't ask anything else, right? He does become a personal trainer and I'd see him over one day we have lunch and we're bullshitting and I'm like, "What?
What? What? Tell me the deal." He's like, "Oh, I was a [ __ ] criminal, dude. Like a criminal. Like a real criminal. Like biggest drug dealer in in Hollywood and armed robbery and ran over
a DEA agent. Like I was a [ __ ] criminal. But now I've, you know, when I was in, I I I discovered, you know, fitness. I started working out and I'm like when I get out I'm gonna, you know,
he got himself in good shape. I'm going to start this is my passion. I'm going to do this. So, he was a trainer there for a while and then he opened his own personal training gym and uh and I would
go work out over there and hang out with him. He's a cool [ __ ] dude. And uh and it became the biggest private training gym in independent in Hollywood.
So, I go off and I I uh you know, I start writing and uh I'm shooting Yellowstone and he reaches out and he goes, "Hey, I wrote a movie about my life. I'm going to send it to you." So,
he sends it to me and I read it and it's actually pretty good. Um but it's sort of a fun '9s kind of they don't make movies like this anymore. It's like we it's The Rock, but we're celebrating the
you know, the guy the [ __ ] criminal. But it was but it was good. But I said, "Hey, I'll pass it on to some producers." And but nothing ever happened with it. Anyway, so COVID
happens. I'm stuck up on this ranch in Montana and I call him and I say, "Tom, where do you get your gym equipment from? Cuz I need to build a gym cuz we can't go to a gym. I can't leave the
ranch. COVID restrictions. The whole [ __ ] cast is stuck on that ranch." And and he said, "They shut my gym down, dude. So, I mean, I'll sell you anything you want." So I I sent a flatbed trailer
to LA and picked up a pile of jib equipment from him and didn't hear from him again. He calls me maybe 18 months ago, two years, and I and I answer and he's like, "Hey man,
I'm in a bad way." I'm like, "What's the deal?" He goes, "Fucking I got he's a single father. I got a 5-year-old kid. I got [ __ ] colon cancer. I'm [ __ ] dying and I don't I'm I'm tapped out,
dude. I'm a [ __ ] 60-y old felon. I can't get a job. but can't do anything. Is there any work on your movies or or anything that I could do? And I said, "Well, first colon cancer. How bad?
Like, what stage? What's this?" He goes, "I don't know." They saw it on an X-ray and diagnosed me. And I said, "Well, let's deal with that [ __ ] first." So, I fly him to Texas where I know people and
I get him in and he sees a doctor and fortunately the mass wasn't cancer. So they they help him out, do the surgery, get that done. And then I say, "Well, I mean, I get you a job in a movie, but it
doesn't pay very good, and the hours are [ __ ] and you've got a 5-year-old daughter. I mean, you you know, to just be a production assistant or something is not going to pay enough to off it's
it's not a great that's not a plan, right?" He goes, "You think you could like just spot me for a few months while I try and figure [ __ ] out?" And I said, "I have a 100% failure rate of loaning
money to friends. It doesn't work, right? I'm not a bank and and buying you 90 days ain't going to [ __ ] help." Said, "But let me think. Let me think of something." And so
it doesn't take me very long. And I'm and I'm thinking, here's a guy who spent 17 years in prison. And you know what? I've never read I've never read a how to not [ __ ] die, a
travel guide to prison. So I call him back and I go, I got it, Tom. We're going to write a book about my life kind of. We're going to write a travel guide to prison for the accidental inmate,
right? Somebody who [ __ ] up and they end up and they don't know how to navigate this place. He goes, "A travel guide?" I said, "I'm going to send you." So, I bought a bunch of Lonely Planet
Travel Guide to Thailand and Mexico and and I said, "Look at these." Right? It breaks it down. It tells you an overview of the country. Then, it gives you a glossery of the terms. They teach you
the language. They talk about the food. They talk about where you stay. They talk about navigating the country. We're going to do that for for prison. And he goes, "I'm in." I said, "Great.
I'm going to write all the intros. I'll build the structure and and walk you through it and you're gonna So, it's literally a travel guide to prison and it walks you through day one, how to
navigate the yard, being processed in, the food, the commissary, the gangs, the diseases, prison riots, how to get a job in there, how to [ __ ] make a shiv, how to everything.
>> Whoa. >> It's a It is a tour guide to prison. >> How many pages? >> Couple hundred. It sounds awesome.
>> It's the greatest. >> I hope I never need it. No. >> Well, most people who read it hope they never need it. >> I'm going to guess 99% of the people who
do read it, the one thing it'll do is tell you you don't ever want to [ __ ] go there. That's for sure, right? And typically if someone's going there, I even say in the intro, I'm like, if
you're if you're buying this book because you're going to prison, finish the book before you get to prison. Do not bring this book with you to prison or you'll die on [ __ ] day one.
leave the book at home. But yeah, so so then we did I took the we we wrote three chapters of it. I took it out um and Simon Schuster read it, flipped and me and Tom got a book deal. So
>> that's awesome. >> So he, you know, he he he was able to sit with me and we wrote it and he was able to take care of his kid. And >> that's very cool.
>> Yeah. >> Good for you, man, for doing that. That's really awesome that you did that >> because I know you're busy as [ __ ] like you having another project on your
plate. Not Not fun probably. That's awesome. >> That one was a lot of fun, right? >> Yeah. But not fun to take something else on. I mean, I'm sure you're
>> Yeah. But it was it was it was a very entertaining diversion from, you know, from my other, you know, I can [ __ ] about my other job, right? [ __ ] about something on Land Man or whatever. And
then, you know, I'm going to sit down and, oh, we're writing about smallox today. Okay. There's there's some perspective. It's not It's not quite so bad that Billy Bob is an hour late to
work, which he's never an hour late to work, but but you get my point. But >> yeah, it's a sobering thing. It's a It's It's a That's a broken system. You won't talk
about a broken [ __ ] system. >> Yeah. >> The prison system from the Alabama Solution on, >> you know, the guy who did that
documentary on Alabama prison system. It's [ __ ] heartbreaking, man. Heartbreaking. I used to be roommates with the guy that edited
all of those locked up. He would go and film those locked up. You remember those? >> Yeah. >> Go to Falsam and Corkerin and all these
prisons. Just Dude, it's tell >> rough. And and not designed to rehabilitate, right? All it's an institution that guarantees you're a criminal when you come out. That's what
you'll be. If you weren't a criminal when you went in, which you clearly committed a crime and got convicted, but you're going to be a [ __ ] criminal when you come out.
>> Like the people the guys like Tom >> who I mean there's an 80s something% recidivism rate in the US. So for a guy to get out of prison and not go back to prison, the odds are [ __ ] four to one
against you. Like it's >> at least. >> Yeah. >> It's probably higher than that, right? I think it's 80 something 80 something% 86
80 Yeah. >> [ __ ] >> Yeah, it's brutal. It's brutal. >> Well, I'm glad you wrote it. >> I'll read it. I I promise I'm going to
listen to it. I'll listen to it in the sauna. >> There you go. >> Uh, thanks for everything, man. Thanks for all the awesome shows. It's been
great watching them, >> dude. Thanks for watching. >> You're the man. >> Appreciate you. I appreciate the guy. >> We have time to talk about one more
thing. >> Sure. that UFC 250. >> Oh, man. Yeah, >> Justin Gai, dude.
>> Yeah, I just had him on. >> Yeah, I know. It's incredible. >> I saw him. Remember when I bumped into you at that fight in Vegas? That's the first time I'd seen him live. And I go
to a bunch of prize fights. I love boxing. And I'm watching that guy. If he had decided to be a professional boxer, he would his striking is is that level. like that dude, he went to work on that
guy. >> No, he's a man. I'm glad he's a MMA fighter because he started out as an all-American wrestler and division one. He's like very he's a just a great
athlete all across the board and just his particular style of aggression is so well suited for MMA. >> Oh yeah. >> It's just
>> it's shocking that he's that good a striker and he was a wrestler. >> I know. He's he's just a wild [ __ ] like across the board. But for him to pull that off the way he did
at the White House >> was nuts. I mean his some books had him at six to1 underdog >> and Iliot is so [ __ ] good. He's so good. And he had him in sick trouble in
that second round. Let's I watched it again yesterday. The second round was brutal. I mean Iliot was just destroying his liver. >> Yeah. Almost put him down.
>> Yeah. But even in the second round, Justin was he still bloodied Ilia up. His face was busted up. Like he was getting the most damage to Ilia's face. And that was a giant factor in the fight
cuz I don't know if what the accuracy of these reports are, but what's being reported is that he had two broken orbital bones and a broken nose. So both his eyes were broken and his nose was
broken. And Justin was here a couple days later and he looked great. >> It's just nuts. It's just like he's very deceptively good at rolling with shots and, you know, he's [ __ ] durable as
hell and just very clever. Very clever in how he sets things up and where where he finds openings. And one of the things he kept getting off is this. He does like he
does a collar tie into an uppercut and he got that off >> multiple shots. He did that with Phys, too. He's really good with that move. He's a beast, man. I'm I'm just so happy
for him to win. You know, I'm a giant Iliot fan as well and I think he'll be back better than ever. And uh I think sometimes a loss is like one of the most important things a
fighter can ever have because they realize like you can be beat and you need to know that you're a human. You need to know that you you can't just throw caution to the wind sometimes and
just engage in these wild scraps. Sometimes you be you have to be a little bit more tactical and sometimes you got to realize like you can't take everybody out and and that's the case with Justin.
They couldn't take him out and he almost did in the second round. Got real [ __ ] close. Real close. >> But you know >> that that freaking Justin he he can time
>> that transfer of power to right at the end of the punch >> and just his hands are so heavy. >> Yeah. Everybody says that too. Everybody who who he's fought has said he's one of
the hardest guys that that's ever hit them, including Kabib, who's, you know, one of the all-time greats. Said Justin hit him harder than anybody. >> Yeah, he's a [ __ ] animal.
>> Yeah, it was impressive, man. >> And the fight was like to be there at the White House while that was going on and to have Justin so happy. Like there's something about a guy winning
who's an underdog that is just so [ __ ] inspiring. >> He didn't look like an underdog that night. >> No, he did. Not after the second round.
He didn't. Especially the third. Once the third rolled around, he dropped him and then he he he uh got a head and arm and snatched him down to the ground. I was like, "Holy [ __ ] man. He's
>> he's [ __ ] dominating him. This is crazy." Yeah, >> it was wild. Wild to watch. >> It was wild. >> It was awesome, though.
>> It was fantastic. >> Should have been there live, >> man. That would have been a good one. >> Oh, it was crazy. It was crazy to be there live. It just felt surreal. I
mean, they had a fly over. They all together. >> Eight jets come shooting over, >> bro. They were like separated by like that far from each other. I don't know
how the [ __ ] those guys do that. It was incredible. >> Incredible. >> Incredible. >> Yeah, that was awesome.
>> Thanks, brother. Once again, the book is called How to Not Die in Prison. >> Yeah. >> And uh available now, audio book, everything.
>> Yep. >> Thank you. >> Awesome, buddy. Thank you. >> Bye, everybody.