Is Mamdani the New Power Broker?
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Today in the group chat is Zoran Mamdani, the democrats' new power broker. Candidates he backed made a big statement in New York last night.
Revamp and recharge a democrat party in Washington that has in so many ways failed to meet the moment.
And a stark intelligence warning. The next major cyber attack could be just months away, and humans may have little to do with it. And JFK's only grandson just lost his primary in New York, where does that leave the legacy that a lot of people used to call Camelot? And some things are in Mamdani and Donald Trump can agree on, a big triumph in Washington for an issue that couldn't be closer to home.
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Clean sweep for Zoran Mamdani. Good morning, everybody. I'm Audie Cornish, and here's what we're talking about today. The three progressives who were backed by New York City's democratic socialist mayor, All of them won their house primaries last night. So you had a former city controller Brad Lander, ousted two term congressman Dan Goldman after a bruising campaign that focused heavily on their differences over Israel.
Democrats are painfully divided by our differences over The US relationship to Israel and Palestine, and we have to face up to it squarely. Yeah. Our party needs to admit that Joe Biden's hug b b strategy was catastrophic failure.
And state assemblywoman Claire Valdez, Mamdani backed Democratic socialist, will be the Democratic nominee for New York's 7th Congressional District. And Daria Lizi Aliza Avila Chevalier, another Democratic socialist captured New York's 13th District defeating incumbent Adriano Espeyat. So it was a rough night for the old guard in New York. There are two incumbents who were defeated.
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Joining me now in the group chat, Ron Brownstein, CNN senior political analyst, Jared Stepman, contributor at The Daily Signal, and Antoine Seawright, Democratic Party strategist. Antoine, I'm gonna start with you because this is all about Democrats last night and the Democratic Party, except it kind of was about the Democratic socialists instead. You had someone like, Hakim Jeffries on Wednesday, sort of implying, like, hey. Settle down everyone trying to turn these into tea leaves. Here he is.
There are 215 members of the House Democratic caucus. A handful of primaries that go in one direction or the other in a given state or two aren't gonna reshape who we are as house democrats.
Is this denying the reality of where voters are headed?
A few takeaways from last night. One, I think that these New York primaries are not some big poll big bold print or summary of where the totality of the Democratic party is heading. Number two, I would argue that the big takeaway from last night was the robust healthy turnout we saw expanding our traditional base in these primaries, which means that we have room to grow. I think that means that the buffet known as the Democratic Party are adding some items, and so that means more people will stand in line to eat from the buffet in November.
It sounds like a parallel buffet.
Hold on.
Let me no. No. No. Before you go, Jamie Harrison, democrat, he was saying, I think this is twenty third, almost midnight, he's tweeting this. Political parties aren't perfect, but they're built by millions of people who knock doors, make calls, fight for the values they believe in.
And then he says this because a lot of people are are criticizing the party. If you don't believe in the party, then don't ask its members to carry you across the finish line. Chris Murphy responds. Chris Murphy of Connecticut, and he goes, I don't know, man. Who is the Democratic party?
If not, the voters. Democratic voters choose candidates, not party leaders, and party leaders need to listen to what voters are telling us. And right now, they're demanding our party be bolder.
Sure. We are expansion growing pains. It happens on both sides of the aisle. But what I tell you what I will tell you is that the big takeaway for the New York primaries last night was New York 17, a moderate candidate, who will take on Mike Lawler, a swing district in New York that will help us get the majority. Democrats progressive winning and Democratic safe seats is not some narrative that we should just be flashing the lights about.
I mean, that's healthy debate. That's healthy within the party. I'm gonna focus on how do we get to two eighteen, and New York's seventeen primary is a direct result
of that. It it is really a two track story, think, that it it is not as simple as as being betrayed. And and Ron's right. I mean, in safe Democratic seats in blue places, there is no question the party is moving to the left. If you are an incumbent, kind of a mainstream Democrat in a solidly blue district, especially in an urban setting, you have to be looking over your left shoulder after what we are watching this year.
But if you look at the districts that are going to decide which party has the majority, with a few exceptions, Democrats are still relying primarily on moderate nominees. I mean, York 17, South Carolina one, and Utah one last night. We didn't say Ben McAdams. We didn't say Nancy Lecore. We didn't say Kate Connelly.
But, ultimately, those are the candidates that are gonna decide whether which party is the majority. Now it it is not without consequence that these left candidates are winning in even in safe places because, a, Republicans are going to try to tie all Democrats to them. And if, if Democrats do get the majority, it's going to affect the internal dynamics of the caucus.
But in
terms of gets majority, it's not a a moment to step in here because this is the argument that I've heard over and over and over again with each one of these special elections. There's a moderate doing well. There's someone over here making noise. Why? Who are they?
But you have Republicans using those voices to be like, look. They're all communists. And does that work against some of these moderate candidates?
Sure. But you can't deny the fact that MacDonny and folks like him are trying to reshape the Democrat party. I thought a lot of the issues were actually less just directed toward Donald Trump, but you see a lot of the Democrat party is opposition to Trump. This is about internal debates within the party. I mean, the it's very clear now that Israel's becoming a litmus test for many, especially in these deep blue districts.
That clearly came to pass in these elections. So, yes, I understand that the larger political picture and national picture is being shaped by a few more moderate swing districts, but this does shape the party long term. If you're sending more socialist members to
congress, that changes the internal happened with both the Tea Party and MAGA candidates, who also at the time were considered extreme, can't win generals. Why are they doing this? Where is the party going? Bush Republicans melting down, you know, like, witches in the Wizard of Oz. It was a whole thing.
Are you speaking from experience, or are you oking at the weak spots?
No. It is experience. It it the the populist politics of the right have reshaped the Republican Party. I think the Democrat Party is going through a similar period that the establishment is seen as not being as credible. They've they've taken some loss.
They've gone against Trump and lost in 2024. Many of the Bernie Sanders style politicians feel that they're in they're in a good spot right
Bernie Sanders. Did he have a good night endorsing?
Yeah. Sure. In in New York. Right? I mean, in New York City.
I mean, you know, and and there are look. It it it as I was saying, this is pride primarily happening in safe blue places so far. There are a few of the Sanders Warren type candidates who are who have gotten nominations in competitive races. Maine, Graham Plattner, obviously, in the senate race. There's a California, the race for David Valadeo's seat.
There's gonna be one in Colorado coming up. How they do in November is going to be really critical to the long term
Of course.
Prospects of the of this woman. I mean, the you know, all of the districts we're talking about in New York City, Harris won at least 72% of the vote. Okay? So these are these are very safe Democratic places. And if they do get to Washington, they are gonna they are gonna affect the internal dynamics of the caucus.
But, ultimately, I think whether the left comes out of November with as much momentum as they look like this morning, I think it's gonna depend a lot
on those candidates experience. Which is back to you
last point. Has been economics. Has been affordability. And I think whether you talk about the progressive left or the centrist left or the modest, however you wanna describe them, the through line has been affordability. And I would just say that how you campaign and how you govern are two different things.
Yeah.
And I think
we should Maldani is good
example of that. With mayor Mondani. He talked about a number of things on the campaign trail, but people in New York by and large have been very pleased with him. That's why the right have not been able to attack him and try to mold him into be something he's not.
Okay. We're gonna talk more about some of these races, but I wanna turn to one other thing because I always like to look at where the money went. So did big tech try to buy New York's political primary? How tech companies spent millions to shape Tuesday's vote? Plus, our immigration courts becoming ice hunting grounds, a federal judge has decided to step in.
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President Trump is failing to get his way in the senate. He wants to pass his voting requirements bill known as the SAVE Act, and he wants the senate to end the filibuster to override democrats to get it done. Senator Tom Tillis, a republican, says that's not gonna happen.
This is a waste of time. It's a distraction, and it's not gonna get it's not gonna happen in this congress. He's just gotta understand some of the limits we have here in the senate. Talking's good. SABAC's a waste of time.
Last night, several Republicans crossed party lines to vote for a war powers resolution demanding that the president come to congress if he wants to continue a war with Iran. Now the battle over these bills is coming to a head for senate leader John Thune. He's facing not just Trump, but rival Republicans gunning for his job and willing to use Trump's frustration to get it. So what can we expect today? The group chat is back.
I'm gonna nerd out because I used to cover the senate. And, senator Thune was on x hitting back at Mike Lee and others who were like, pass the save act and get rid of the filibuster. We're all frothy about this. And Thune was telling reporters, look, I have to deal with reality. And sometimes the alternative universe that is X does not reflect the facts on the ground.
This is the old Twitter is not real life argument. And he says there are not the voters to nuke the filibuster. There aren't going to be 10 democratic votes to all of a sudden support the Save America Act. Those are hard realities, and I think people at some point have to come to grips with that. People or Trump?
Yeah. I think this is really an interesting moment, especially for the filibuster, I would say, that that Trump is using this moment to say, look. It needs to be done away with to to get what we
want here. Use it with something they don't want that they can't pass?
Why don't you use it with something? President Trump especially has actually had some criticism even from his own voters that he hasn't paid enough attention to domestic politics, that he's been focused on international affairs. The Save America Act, which is very popular amongst the Republican base, is something that needs to happen. And so Trump, I think, is getting pressure from his own voters, and he is now pressuring the senate thinking, well
But why not pass it in
the knowledge six of months?
Like, if you're like, if their problem is focusing
on domestic policy, why not do something that actually affects their pockets? I think because Republican voters also see elections as mattering, they they very much support voter ID
as on that. Okay. What do you see?
Yeah.
I see meet the new boss same as the old boss. What was the issue on which there was the most pressure to end the filibuster during Joe Biden's presidency? HR one, voting reform, and the democratic vision of what national voting rules should be. And, ultimately, they could not they did not have enough votes to pass, to, end the filibuster in the Senate Mansion Cinema, and others who were mostly unnamed. To at to this point, there's not a majority in the senate on either side to end the filibuster.
And as long as there isn't, you can't impose a national voting regime on red states and blue states.
So one other thing, Rick Scott of Florida, I was reading the reporting, was the one who might have invite invited Trump. You're nodding. You heard this too. Invited Trump to this lunch. Food was like, oh, yes.
I too want him at this lunch. And so now they're gonna have to face Trump. You've been in leader meetings, I know on house side, but how does this go down?
Oh, it'll be whatever happens in the meeting will be leaked to the press before the meeting even ends. That's like number one.
Okay.
Number two, but I think this whole idea of the Save America Act or voter suppression
act And I'm gonna put up while you're speaking what's in it so
people can see.
The this voter suppression act is a larger narrative that the president and his party are trying to implement to strike fear and intimidation and voter suppression into the midterms. You've had this with redistricting. You had this with his executive order on banning mail in voting. There's a number of things they're trying to do to shape what the midterms look like. I've often called it the if you can't beat them, cheat them strategy, and most reasonable Republicans know that this is not the way to go if they want to be successful in
the midterm. Rob Ron's point, which is that under Democrats, people didn't wanna mess with it, and under Republicans, now people don't wanna mess with They see voting as the province of the states. They already have watched this redistricting war. And this brings me to this point. Why is it with a war powers vote?
I'm gonna show you the Republicans who crossed the aisle with voting. Why are these the trigger points that have inspired a certain courage Well in the senate against Trump?
69% of Americans in a poll on Sunday said the war was not worth the costs. I mean, that's you know, you you can find a lot of courage in a in a 69% issue. And it is still, like, even on the voting, the vast majority of each party's legislators are willing to vote for setting national rules that would, that would affect, all 50 states, but not enough. I mean, it it it is you know, I don't know how many Republicans would vote to end the filibuster to pass the SAYB Act, but it's, you know, it's a lot. It's probably, like, 45.
Are there
things in here Democrats could campaign on? As a woman with a hyphenated name, I've been watching this closely. I don't wanna get to the polls and be told, well, wait a second. Are you who you say you are? It feels like this is an issue that can be easily brought to voters, a la Antoine, but that Republicans I mean, if Thune is saying it's not there, are the people going after him just try to curry favor with Trump to show, look, I would have done this on your agenda if it was me.
But some of the issues, like, for instance, voter idea is extremely
my question. Is it a power move on Thune to basically bring him before the president and tell everyone, look what he's not doing, I would done it.
No question. And this is sort of the independence that the senate has sort of always had as as a body, sees itself as outside the president. I think you get a little less of that opposition in the house.
I think you have convenient independence because more than not, they have aligned themselves with Donald Trump on almost every single issue. And that's why senate Republicans are so unpopular because the president is underwater on every single issue. I also think Thune understands now that the affordability crisis is right at their doorstep, and they're taking responsibility for it. And the Donald Trump agenda is very unpopular amongst the American people, including the safe
They also passed the housing bill last night, bipartisan. We're not gonna hear about it because they're gonna be so it's like that kind of thing where it's like, wait. You have an item you could be promoting to the voter. Well, we got a bipartisan housing bill. Instead, you're like, really?
I wanna go after all these different voting things. How about we spend time on that?
The thing that's frustrating for senators in both parties is they are much less able than when I first got to Washington in the eighties to swim against the current. You know? Yeah.
There's no reward for
If if you look if you look the the there are 25 states that voted three times for Donald Trump. Right now, there are 50 Republican senators in those 25. They have every senate seats. 19 states voted three times against him. Democrats have every one of those senate seats except for Susan Collins.
It is very hard for a senate candidate, no matter how strong or popular they are personally, to win on ground that usually votes the other way for president. So in some ways, they are dependent variables in
their own future. No matter how much they kind of
deal with a small caucus of people burned by Trump in the Republican caucus. And they're on their way out, but on their way out, they may say, I'll cast a few votes the way I want. That's how that's how courage is built. Okay. You guys thank you for this straight ahead on CNN this morning.
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Secretary of state Marco Rubio is trying to separate those talks from The US Iran negotiations.
It's separate because Lebanon is a sovereign country. Now there's an Iranian issue with regards to Lebanon, and that is their support and sponsorship of Hezbollah. And so that'll that factor will be discussed as part of our conversations with the Iranians.
Israel says the strikes are in self defense against Hezbollah. And NATO secretary general Mark Rutte deemed the Trump whisperer will meet with president Trump today. Now their meeting comes ahead of the annual NATO summit, which is in two weeks, and Trump is still threatening to leave NATO altogether. And we have the winner of New York's Democratic primary race to fill congressman Jerry Nadler's seat, big tech. In a sign of what to come in the midterm elections, AI companies poured cash into the race.
Michael Lasher is the winner, but the second place finisher, Alex Boris, who calls for AI regulation was at the center of a proxy battle between OpenAI and Anthropic. Super PACs, partially funded by Clodmaker Anthropic, spent a whopping $18,000,000 in support of Alex Boris, and then a Super PAC, partially funded by OpenAI's cofounder, spent $8,000,000 opposing him. Now Boris, who's a former Palantir employee, is at the forefront of pushing AI regulation.
Last year, I passed the strongest AI safety bill in the country over Donald Trump's executive order. I followed it up this year with the strongest bill to protect kids from AI chatbots. Both of those bills were opposed by the entire AI industry, including by anthropic. It's just that the battle lines in this race in particular are whether we can regulate AI at all. And for that question, most people are on the side that we need some regulation.
So joining us in the group chat, Maria Curie, tech reporter for Axios. Thank you for being here. While we're talking, I'm gonna put up the names of some of the future super PAC. These are guys who spent money in opposition, to Alex Boris. You have Mark Andreessen, Ben Horowitz, Greg Brockman, who's president and cofounder, of OpenAI.
Why this spending on this district?
You know, it's really interesting because at the end of the day, Alex Boris and Michael Lasher have a lot of similarities when it comes to
AI regulation. Get it. I was like, I don't understand the spending.
Right. Lasher is actually the cosponsor of the RAISE Act, which is one of the strongest safety legislate bills in the country right now. Lasher also supports a data center moratorium, and that's something that's one of the most extreme AI positions to be taking right now. And so I think what this ultimately did was make Alex Boras a stronger candidate, a more well known candidate
in the race.
In the future.
And then let me play it
for you. In the meantime, they might have woke up this morning to hear this from Micah Lasher, as we said Yeah. New York twelve. Here's how he talked about it.
I have some news for the two big AI companies who've taken such an unusual interest in who won this congressional seat. I won't be taking my cues from either of you when it comes to protecting our kids, our jobs, and our environment.
What's at stake here then?
At the end of the day, you know, this super PAC across the country, the Leading the Future super PAC has spent more than a $100,000,000 in races. And out of the 29 races Say that again. This super PAC, Leading the Future, has spent more than $100,000,000 in races and
across the about APAC. I've been talking about vote vets on war. And in the meantime, in the background, you're telling me a $100,000,000 has been spent.
More than a $100,000,000. And out of the 29 races that they have gotten involved in, they've won 28.
The other thing I'm interested in, I was reading in notice, the newsletter Palantir hiring two new lobbyists with Democratic party ties. Is this a thing where they're leaning into the party they think will be in power Right. Midterms?
It could be that. You know, what's really interesting about the Palantir talking point in all of this saga is that the cofounder of Leading the Future is a Palantir cofounder as well, and he went after Boris over Boris' ties to Palantir even though Boris left because of ethical concerns. And so Palantir has become kind of a a sticking point in all of this, but it's across the aisle present.
And probably because the co the co CEO or CEO, Alex Karp Mhmm. Just in March said this to CNBC. He's not shying away from the question of how the public will react as voters.
If you are going to disrupt the economic and therefore political power significantly of one party space, highly educated, often female voters who vote mostly democrat, and military and working class people who do not feel supported, and you feel like that's you believe that that's gonna work out politically, you're in an insane asylum.
Alex Harp is interesting in his own political donations. He's gone back and forth between Democrats and Republicans. It's like as in a personal level, he can't decide. But I think what we've been hearing across the board from CEOs are these big alarmist statements whether it has to do with jobs. It's mostly had to do with job displacement, and yet they are moving as fast as possible to release this technology, which begs the question, what do you actually want to see here?
What do you want to be done?
One oh, go ahead.
I was gonna say, the the class inversion since the eighties and seventies is really one of the most powerful dynamics in American politics with Republicans doing better among blue collar workers increasingly across racial lines, Democrats doing better among white collar workers. But that was driven mostly on cultural grounds. What's happening in the AI era is you get a reinforcement on economic grounds where you now have, I think, in white collar America, a lot of the economic anxiety that really helped drive blue collar the other way in the eighties. I mean, there used to be plant closing legislation aimed at blue collar workers in the eighties. Now there's kind of proposals for AI, job loss legislation aimed at white collar workers, and it tends the economics is gonna push in the same direction
Big time. You had
Education toward Democrats, blue collar
toward Microsoft's AI Microsoft's chief actually allude to this, talking about the similarities between the promises of globalization, eighties, nineties, and what turned out to be the reality for workers after. For my partisans, this is money that lawmakers don't know how to feel about yet. Because in some places, like a Utah red state, they fought the hell out of a data center. And then you have candidates like this, Democrats, talking about regulation. So do we expect to see them taking the money and not talking about it?
Do we expect to see a lane for a candidate who cares about AI displacement who suddenly comes to the forefront talking about it?
Yeah. I mean, I think there's a certain amount amount of localism here. I mean, the Republican Party on the national level seems to be much more of the AI optimist party. On the local level, it's very it's very different. I mean, in fact, it it it reflects the fact that a lot of Americans on the left and right are very nervous about AI.
They don't quite know what to make of it and they're more concerned about it than some of the leaders in Washington who seem to say, oh, this is gonna be great. It's gonna be transformative.
And we should say China did sign an AI executive order. I was talking with Marie earlier about how first there was supposed to be a big announcement, then they pulled it after some griping from the tech guys and then they actually signed one which does encourage AI model sharing with the government and tries to crack down on security breaches linked to AI. The reason why I'm bringing this up is because at this point you've got international intelligence agencies warning that AI models are advancing so quickly they could overwhelm government and business defenses like not one day but months from now.
Mhmm. When you talk about AI, Ron, we're not talking about Antoine intelligence. We're talking about artificial intelligence.
Yeah. We did not make that mistake, but continue.
But they spelled it out in the executive. But I
I I think within my part of their real conversations about how they impact these communities locally from driving up high utility cost that most Americans cannot afford from the environmental controls.
Asking. It's not clear where the party's fallen
these days.
I think I think we have a mixed bag I think we have mixed bag feelings within the party because I don't think that people are clear about the long term impact and effects that they're gonna have on communities. And I would just say for folks who are taking money, from AI and still not, certain about where they're staying, I call that research.
Okay. In the meantime, let me come to you about this warning. Because first of all, there's always warnings about AI every few weeks, every few months to be honest. And the latest one, it's giving Skynet just the idea that there could be the next hack that comes could be, I guess, driven by the AI itself. Can you explain this?
So here's why this executive order matters and is important, and it has to do with this as well. This executive order essentially says that AI companies, they need to have a certain level of transparency, and it's voluntary, but AI labs realize they have to do it.
Yes. And Anthropic did something like this, in fact, just a few months ago.
And received explicit approval from the government to release its models, but we're now seeing that they've shut down their most advanced models to allies around the country and even foreign nationals within The US, including top researchers at Anthropic. How do you protect against cyber attacks if you don't have access to the most advanced models?
Especially if you're used to Trump is used to doing transactional business with political allies and friends. So with Anthropic, right, he and Hagstad, they get sideways sideways with Anthropic. They don't like the person who runs it. And yet still the technology was so, let's say scary that Anthropic in the middle of being called a supply chain risk went to the government and said, I think you should know about this. There's this weird push pull where, like, we want them.
We wanna control them, but we can't. It's out of our control.
Right. And we've reported on this, you know, extensively that this does have to do with real cybersecurity concerns that these models could be jailbroken. Yeah. But it also has to do with personality clashes and the fact that the Anthropic CEO has not figured out a way to communicate effectively with the Trump administration, and we're seeing OpenAI, a rival AI lab, continue to release advanced models and not face export controls the way Anthropic has.
Because they're gonna go with him to The Middle East. They're gonna go with him to all like, the relationship is there. Okay. Since this is nonpartisan, thank you guys for playing with me on it. It affects us all.
Maria Curie, you thank so much for being Next on CNN this morning, there, a Kennedy lost in New York. So after Jack Schlossberg's loss, is the Kennedy legacy losing its power? Plus. It is possible to find bipartisan common ground on legislation. Alright.
So we all agree the rent is too high, but can congress come together to fix it? Once upon a time, the name Kennedy carried some major weight in US politics. Last night, Jack Schlossberg, JFK's only grandson, lost in a crowded and expensive primary in New York City. He's Caroline Kennedy's 33 year old son. Schlossberg finished a disappointing third in a race that also had all of that AI spending we just talked about.
And well known cable news name George Conway. Schlossberg spoke after his his defeat.
We need to do things differently. We don't just need younger candidates. We need different leaders. We need different voices.
Unfortunate background for him there since he is quite literally on the cutting room floor. But everybody liked the way he had a deft use of the media, which is also part of the legacy.
Yeah. Look. I mean, we are, I think, further from JFK's election than he was from the Spanish American war. Okay?
So, like But we are closer to the arguments about the effects of TV and celebrity and on politics.
Look. I mean, you know, having name ID is valuable. I mean, it's it's it's tangible. It's it's it's it it costs you a lot of money to get known. Like, look at what happened in California.
I mean, in in, you know, in in like in the governor, it's it's it costs a lot of money to get known, but it doesn't supersede everything else.
Yeah.
Right. It's easy. Doesn't mean game wrong. Right. Right.
And I think that
Have you been saving that?
No. We haven't.
The name doesn't mean game. And I think when you have this change election environment where people want to test drive something different, I don't think the name, relatability helps you in these cases.
Do you
think that actually played against him? Because he was trying to show things need to change. He was speaking the language of the modern Democratic party.
He was speaking to some in the modern Democratic party, but also there's something about local relationships and how they play out in these elections. I think the winner in that district had solid foundational local relationships that gave them, ultimately the advantage.
Yeah. And I just I don't know if the Kennedy name has much cachet, especially with with it's already going out with millennials. Gen z
may seem to arguing about this just now. Anyone who watched FX's love story Yeah. Has picked up a cigarette and relived the nineties because of the Kennedy
long time ago. A little mystique, but it's been broken, I feel, within the last few generations. That's how far
we get
RFK in the White House?
Yeah. But see
Where are you from again? Daily Signal?
That's the reason people voted against him.
That's not possible. Maybe they killed him. They were legit. I tried.
I'm trying to help y'all in this discussion. One more thing. It's a bit of good news because it's bipartisan. President Trump expected to sign a housing affordability bill. It passed with rare and overwhelming support in both chambers of congress.
Today's vote proves that it is possible to find bipartisan common ground on legislation that actually helps the American people.
If we would just focus on the American people and listen when they speak, we would remember two things. Number one, they hire us. We work for them.
So this could be the first clear sign that congress is hearing the concerns from the American people around the issue of affordability. So what's in this legislation? It would limit private equity from buying up homes. We know this is a really big issue from people who are concerned that private equity is buying up homes and driving up costs. It's supposed to make manufacturing homes easier and cheaper to build, tough one given local zoning laws.
And that's why this is here, attempts to ease zoning and permitting rules. I can't help but think looking at the polling showing Trump's handling of the economy
Mhmm.
That as Tim Scott said, maybe they are finally listing.
No. I I I'm well, it's funny because I was thinking of of president Trump at the twenty twenty Republican convention talking about how democrats wanna override zoning rules and bring multifamily housing to all the suburbs. I mean, remember him that was, like,
a big
was a big thing. And and, essentially, it was it was bringing non white people to white suburbs was kind of the clear underlying underlying message. Look. You know, I mean, housing is it's tough for the federal government to have a real big impact on even the states, like California has struggled to pass policies at the state level that that that shift local zoning decisions
But that's like a slatively tough. Is it politically tough to tell private equity to kick rocks when they give money in elections as well? I mean, these are huge entities.
They are, but there's a the council of of American people who are very upset with the fact that their housing is very expensive, especially the younger generations. A lot of millennials and youngers can't afford a house. They they feel that's the Americans.
Right now, we're gonna put up that polling. 70% disapproval on the economy. Are they blaming Trump for that?
I don't know if they're blaming Trump. Of course, he's the president of The United States. So people, of course, are gonna be angry at the party in power, and that's that seems to be Trump. But at the same time, again, you saw this as a a bipartisan bill. People are angry about the housing issue, period.
It's it's on it's happening in blue states and red states across the board. And even in places like New York City, you have Mondani who has tried to open up more housing. A lot of Republicans are kind of okay with that. And so it's I feel that sort of that sort of crosses the line on this particular issue. That's why they even got anything bipartisan.
I think this is a step in the right direction, but by and large, I think this is a pimple on a rhinoceros butt when you think about
How do you come up with this
the housing crisis that we're facing in this country because it's largely around affordability. The average homeowner, first time home homeowner in this country now is 40 years old. People cannot afford to pay the rent. You have a Republican party and Yeah.
We're gonna put up home sales while you're talking.
Party who says that we have a housing issue in this country because illegals have come to this country zapping up all the housing. They refuse to come to grips with the reality that it's an affordability issue and it's an excessive
I just wanna point out one thing. I played Tim Scott at the start of that. I did not play Tim Scott earlier in the show when we were talking about Trump's lead priorities in the senate, which are the save act and the filibuster. So why is the guy whose main job is getting more senators hired who are Republicans not in that conversation but featured heavily in this one.
Well, you could run, but you can't hide. The reality is he Tim Scott understands that every single issue that they campaigned on in the last election cycle, Republicans and Donald Trump are underwater on, and he does not want to bear the responsibility for losing majority.
How do you avoid that?
That's his job. Well, no.
We and they are facing the the conundrum of the president's party in a midterm when the president is unpopular. On the one hand, they clearly need to keep Trump relatively quiescent so that he will do what they need to help turn out their voters. On the other hand, Trump is looking at a 70% disapproval rating among independents, and they also need independent voters in most of these states. And it's it's kind of like a no win game. If you show independence from Trump, you risk him, you know, throwing a thunderbolt at you and depressing base turnout.
And if you don't, it's very hard to, get enough purchase among those independent voters to disapprove them two to one. It's it's just not easy. It's not unique to Republicans in '26, but it is the core problem.
Alright. We're gonna hear a lot this week, especially after this lunch today where the president is heading to the hill. We've got stuff going on, with Israel and Lebanon. I want to hear about your group chats for a minute. Let's cleanse the timeline.
What are you talking about in your world?
I'm actually getting geared up for the July 4 for the two fiftieth celebration.
In York City.
I'm very actually, in New York It's
still June.
I I know it's still June, but it's very important for we've got a the party's ready to go, and for me, my tradition's always been to go usually when I was in Washington DC, I'd visit Mount Vernon, put flowers by the grave of Washington. Now I'm gonna go to the Hamilton's grave in New York City. Wait.
You're not gonna go to the the show? No.
I'm gonna be in New York.
Why are you
hating on Vanilla Ice? Just trying to figure out if he's going
to it. No. You know what? I'm gonna be in New York City. I think there's gonna be a huge celebration there.
With Democrats.
With but I I will personally go Nice. To Hamilton's grave and put some flowers there. I think he deserves it.
Well done.
And it's something that's important to me.
Alright. Antoine, what about you?
My group chat is the co endorsement from the president in our republican gubernatorial prime minister. It's new water. We're swimming in here. New tradition. But it's up Ron, it's almost like if you're from South Carolina, you appreciate this, cheering for the Gamecocks and the Clemson Tigers and the Pebble Bowl.
It's just unprecedented. Trump has lost in Iowa. He's lost in Georgia. He was about to lose in South Carolina, so he wanted to throw this Hail Mary pass and endorse two candidates.
It's like those people who live in the middle of Connecticut and had those half Yankee, half Red
Sox hats.
I mean, I was like,
that's what
Speaking of celebrations speaking speaking of celebrations for July 4 in New York, I my timeline my my group chat literally is obsessed with this. Taylor Swift really gonna get married at Madison Square Garden.
Oh. On July 4.
Because, like, that would I'm and
that thought Emmett's point is happening in Rhode Island.
You know? Because if I mean, that would be, like, that would be the worst decision ever. I mean, like, like, if you view yourself essentially as a product or a commodity or phenomenon, but I don't know. Mamdani seemed to, like,
hint it championship.
Mamdani hinted that it was coming. He said we can or but
he said
We are gonna have some reporting on this later security for Nick's game.
We can do security for did he say
I yeah.
He may say watch parties outside the garden.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. No. No.
Actually That's
that's a good one.
Is the president gonna attend also? I think no.
I'm guessing. A mild guess and no. I'm guessing no.
JD Vance gonna attend? Also, I'm gonna say it's a no even if she would no longer be a kind of single cat lady, the worst kind of person to be according to the vice president. No. He's just apologized. You could read about it in the new book.
Alright. You guys, thank you so much for talking about this. Ron, I hope you get the answers you're looking
for know.
On Taylor Swift sweating.
What I'm looking for.
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