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I think that we need strong alpha males like Donald J. Trump, Spencer Pratt, and our loved Charlie Kirk >> Did you just ironically say strong alpha males?

>> We have laws in favor of women getting leadership roles. We're taking opportunities away from men. You are oppressed more than me. >> Men are men, and men have testosterone,

and men love beautiful women, and trust me, I would prefer a man that actually looks at women and is sexually attracted to women. >> Dude.

>> They had to make things up to get Trump. Trump doesn't have to be a sexual predator. Any woman would love to be with Trump. >> All right, listen. Put your hand up if

you would have sex with Donald Trump. >> Has Donald Trump been a good president for women, or has America moved backward from expanding women's rights to debating how far those rights should go?

I'm John Regalado and from Jubilee Media, this is Surrounded, where one brave soul faces [music] a room full of disagree-ers. Today, we are diving into what feminism means on both [music]

sides of the aisle, abortion rights, and President Trump's record. I'm here with our [music] featured guest, progressive commentator Dean Withers. Welcome to the show.

>> Thank you for having me. >> You ready to go? >> Oh, I'm excited. This will be fun. >> All right, are you all ready to debate Dean?

>> Yeah! >> [cheering] [applause] >> All right, let's get it to it. >> I'm Dean Withers. I'm a 21-year-old

liberal. I do political debate for a living, and today, I'm surrounded by 20 Trump supporters again. But this time, they're all women. My first Surrounded claim is, men aren't

better at leading than women. >> If you would like to debate this claim, please get to the chair in 3 2 1. >> Good to see you again. >> Welcome back, Lori. How you doing?

>> I'm doing good. How are you? >> I'm doing phenomenal. So, the first claim is that men are not better at leading than women. And I'm honestly appalled that you as a woman would

disagree. But I mean, if you want to start it off by telling us why you do think men are better at leading than women, the mic is all yours. >> Well, how I would like to start this off

is I'd like you to define what a woman is. >> Well, sure. I think that the definition of what a woman is is ultimately irrelevant to this debate and I'm

willing to assume I'm willing to pre-assume your definition of what a woman is, i.e. an adult human female. See, if I were to give you my definition of what a woman is, an adult human

individual that pertains to the social and cultural characteristic typical that of a female sex index to their gender identity, well, then all of a sudden we're going to be speaking past one

another because we define the word woman differently. >> Exactly. So, you're bringing this problem up in the first place is kind of silly because you don't know what a

woman is. >> Well, I just told you what my definition of the word woman is. You just happen to overlook that. >> also depend on what leadership role that

that person would take. For instance, if you wanted Kamala Harris, who you voted for, to be the president of the United States, we have a problem with that and

I'll tell you why. It's not necessarily the woman, but it is necessarily foreign countries, for instance, the Middle East. If I go to a Middle East country as a woman, I can't show my hair at risk

of being stoned. >> we talking about Middle Eastern countries when the prompt is men are not better at leading than men? >> about leading. You voted for Kamala

Harris. I think she would been a horrible leader. Foreign countries don't always see women as respectful as they see a man. A woman leading this country, for instance, when you go to a doing

foreign policy and all of those things, they would not have the respect that a man would. I can also say as a woman, depending on your age, if I've got PMS, honey, I'm going to make different

decisions than I would as if I didn't. If I'm going through menopause, I might have hot flashes or whatever ever else. I believe as a Christian woman, men are supposed to lead. We're supposed to

help. And I'm totally comfortable with that. >> Okay, well, thank you, Lori. So, the first thing that I'll to point out here is that your position that maybe foreign

countries wouldn't respect a female president as much as a male president, I don't think is represented through the fact that on the global stage Harris had a significantly higher approval rating

than Trump during the election. And there's a reason for that. >> Cuz she would have been a pushover. They would have got They would have walked right over her.

>> And that's exactly why she had significantly better policy, better character, and would have been a better president for America. But ultimately, once again, Lori,

>> the topic of debate is not was Harris a better option for the president than Trump because even if we want to look at women and men on this macroscopic level of evaluating one woman compared to one

man, even if it was true Harris was a clown and Trump was awesome, that still wouldn't mean that generally speaking men are better at leading than women. The last point that you made there was

about PMS, and I think that you're like indicating that women are more emotional than men on average. >> They are. 100%. >> me why men commit 92% of violent crimes.

Tell me why they're more likely to self-harm and allowed to commit suicide. So, you think that testosterone is what makes men more emotional? >> Absolutely.

>> Okay, well then you just conceded the debate. >> No, I didn't concede the debate. >> that absolutely men are more emotional than men 5 seconds after saying that

women were more emotional than men. >> and that's kind of like a somewhat of a red herring because what I'm trying to say to you, women are more emotional. They just are in more of a

I can change my mind depending on my mood. Now, you're bringing in anger, you're bringing in violence, you're bringing in >> Is anger an emotion?

>> It is, but to a different extent. And honestly, if you've got a man that's violent, out of character alone, I don't want him leading the country. >> And that's why you voted for

>> Oh, yeah. You want to get into that? I know that's another problem, but I'm happy to get into that. >> we can get into that as well. >> accused. Never accused of

>> Okay, we got to we got to pause there. You've been voted out. Please return to your seat. >> Good to see you. >> Good to see you, Lori. If you would like

to be the next debater, please get to the chair in 3 2 1. Welcome. Welcome. >> Hi. >> I'm going to give the mic to you. Why

don't you tell us all why men are better at leading than women? >> Men are better at leading because as a woman, I can tell you that we're emotionally

uh manipulated very easy. We're tend to be compassionate cuz we as a woman and getting pregnant, it's in inherited in us. Why? Because we deal with babies. >> So, women deal with babies, therefore

women can be manipulated. I don't think that that argument follows. >> We're we're we're going to be easily manipulated. >> Women can be easily manipulated.

>> yeah. >> What's the argument for that? >> It's inherited in us. >> Okay, just saying that it's inherent is like me saying that what is actually

inherent of women is that they can't be easily manipulated. That doesn't give me any substance to underpin your position when you just simply underpin your position by saying, "Well, it's

inherent." And it doesn't push this dialogue forward. I would say that men are probably easier to emotionally manipulate than women, or else they wouldn't be culpable for 92% of violent

crimes. We could emotionally manipulate a man by making him lose a game of Fortnite. The next thing we know, there's three holes in his walls. All right, same thing with self-unaliving

statistics, suicide. Suicide's a really bad thing, but it is true that men are significantly more likely to kill themselves than women on average. Same thing with drunk driving, gambling. And

then when we look at women, they actually perform better in the fields that are less indicative of emotional outbursts, such as performing well in school. And I mean, this is all

underpinned by by biology. There was a study done by the American Medical Association that proved that if you're operated on by a female compared to a male in the operating room at a

hospital, that you're less likely to die or to experience any post-negative operative outcomes. Why? Because women are biologically designed to deal with stress and pain better than men because

they have thicker dendrites in their brain. So, ultimately, the science and the empirical facts completely reject the conclusions that you formed. >> Not at all. Men are more rational and

women >> All right, you've been voted out by the majority, so please return to your seat. If you want to be the next debater, please get to the chair in 3, 2, 1.

Hi. >> Hi. >> What's your name? >> Annette Davis-Jackson. >> It's a pleasure to meet you.

>> Yes, yes. >> So, uh let's hear it. Why do you think that men are better at leading than women? >> How about I know that men lead better

than women because women have the babies, you're emotional, but more important, I got I have a dad. I have a dad who was very strong and when I see what President Trump is uh embodying, I

say and I know that you can roll your eyes, but you know what? My grandmother used to say, "You can roll your uh cotton balls, but you sure can't shoot them." So, men are strong just like

Trump because in the first day first 100 days, what did he do? He started writing uh executive orders. >> Yeah. >> He started writing executive orders day

after day after day after day after day after day. Women would probably say, "Hey, let me take a break." That's why. >> Jesus Christ. Okay. Well, uh listen, clearly I disagree with you about Trump.

Uh but, that's actually not relevant to my counterargument. I'll tell you why. Because even if Trump was a good leader, that doesn't mean that therefore men are better at leading than women on average.

Like for instance, in the same way that you could give an anecdote of a man that you think is good at leading to justify the claim that men are better at leading than women, well, I could just give an

anecdote of the opposite. Hitler was a man, he was a terrible leader, therefore men are worse at leading than women. All right? But, clearly that's not how it works because we cannot attempt to uh

allow an anecdote of what we think about one individual man to then exist as a portrait for a generalization about all men. >> Why did you have to say Hitler?

>> Because he's obviously a bad leader that's a man. >> Yeah, and and >> The President of the United States, which is the commander-in-chief, Donald

J. Trump, is a great leader. >> Okay. >> And he's a great leader because because he won a landslide. >> Okay.

>> And if he could run again, he would run a landslide again. >> Yeah, yeah. Well, guess what? He's not, he's a terrible president, his policies suck. How about this? What's your

favorite Trump policy? I mean a bill passed through Congress then signed into law. >> I'm a former college coach and not having men and women sports.

>> what bill was that? >> Oh, no. >> Well, I'm sorry, what bill was that? I asked you a very specific question. >> to stop there. You've been voted out by

the majority. Please return to your seat. >> Okay. >> All right. If you want to debate this claim, please get to the center in 3 2

1. Hi Tracy. >> How are you? >> I think I remember you. Were you on my first Surrounded episode?

>> Maybe. >> Well, I'm going to pass the mic to you. Tell us why you think men are better at leading than women. It's uh it's worth me like reminding you and maybe

everybody else in the room that so far a lot of people who've come up and sat in that chair have really missed the mark. Like that last lady. She told me that men are better at leading than women

because she likes Trump. Okay, let's hear in general why men are better at leading than women. >> Well, this is why you're I think you're going to be surprised. I actually agree

with you. >> Then why are you in the chair? >> And I dis- I respectfully disagree with some of them. Well, I'm just saying some of the points that they were bringing up

about a woman being pregnant and because somebody's can carry a baby that they're not fit to lead. I mean, it's the same argument where we say men go to work and come home and the

woman stays and handles the household and the children. So, is that not a powerful position? And I also have to I'm I'm respectfully disagreeing here and I want you to give

me an example if you can tell me hypothetically of a woman that you think would be a better leader than Trump right now. >> So so just to clarify, you don't think

men are better at leading than women. >> No, no, D. Because if I'm in if I'm >> happy I'm really happy that you don't think >> I I I told you I agree with you, right?

>> want you and everybody else in the room to obviously not think that men are better at leading than women, but unfortunately, the nature of this Surrounded episode is where we have

disagree-ers in the hot seat. >> Yes, so I'm asking you. >> you're not though. >> So, if we're going if we're walking down a dark alley, let's say we're on

Figueroa or something, I would be the person having to protect you. I mean, everybody's built differently. I feel like I would have to be protecting you. I'm taller. I I'm

I'm sure I weigh more than you. Uh I mean you can take as many classes as you want. >> Wow. Yeah. >> But it's true, Dean.

>> I'm not Listen. >> Men and women are >> I'm not going to disrespect your ego the same way you're attempting to insult me, and that's fine.

>> No, it's just it's a size comparison. So, it it it depends on where this conversation is going. If you if you're looking at body type that I'm sorry, there are women

that are larger than men. >> vote her out because she doesn't think that men are better at leading than women? >> Tracy, it does sound like you agree on

this prompt. So, we're going to have you return to your seat and and bring in a dis-agreer. >> Okay. >> All right, if you disagree with this

claim and you want to be the next debater, please get to the chair in 3 2 1. >> Hi. >> Hello.

>> Your name's Julia? >> Julia Kate. So, I want to ask you inherent in your statement that men are not better leaders than women. >> Yeah.

>> There's the sense that you believe men and women are different, correct? >> I think that there's obviously distinctions between men and women or else we wouldn't have two different

words to refer to >> Okay. So, what are some of the distinctions? >> Well, I mean there's distinctions in the sense of cultural and social attitudes

and behaviors. There's going to be that are of course innate to men and women because I don't think that prescriptive I don't think that prescriptive gender norms exist. Now, like from your

perspective that we were to define the genders on the basis of sex, of course then there's going to be sexual dimorphism and there's going to be differences present within that. Of

course, like there's a plethora of differences. Listen, I'm not denying that there are differences between men and women because once again if there wasn't differences between men and

women, well then we wouldn't have two distinct groups. >> we agree on that. >> My claim is is I don't think that any of the differences that exist between men

and women would amount to being relevant to justify the claim that men are better at leading than women. And I'll actually ask you >> than at leading than men?

>> No, I actually think that gender's completely irrelevant >> Interchangeable is what you're saying. >> of if somebody is better at leading than the other person. I ultimately think

that there's going to be no determinative ability regardless of we're making the claim that men are better at leading than women or women are better at leading than men to ever a

that prescriptive claim. >> hearing is that >> and women are essentially interchangeable in your mind. >> Well, in my mind once again I just don't

believe in the proscriptive gender norms. And I think that ultimately one's gender is irrelevant to their leadership capabilities. If you can tell me what are the relevant differences between men

and women that make men better at leading than women. >> We can go back to the hunter and gatherers when men were the ones going out to hunt and women were the ones

staying with the children and gathering fruits and nuts. Men are the people that go towards risk, that go towards provision naturally. Why is it that in today's even our influencer community,

we have more women that are drawn towards beauty, makeup, things like family, schooling, and men are more drawn towards traditionally masculine things. It's innate in every culture

that you see this trend. We are hormonally different. That's been mentioned throughout this place. You as a man do not know what it's like to have a cycle, to have a period, to have your

hormones go up and down. >> Yeah. >> That is insanely significant for a woman's ability to lead. And women will complain about being scared to walk on

the streets at night and yet they'll elect the same politicians that release the criminals on the street. >> that women should lose the right to vote?

>> I think that we I'm not talking about that today. >> Can you just got to get a quick yes or no then we'll go back to the topic. >> need strong alpha males like Donald J.

Trump, Spencer Pratt, and our loved Charlie Kirk. >> Praise Jesus. >> Have secure borders, who will not let criminals on the street.

>> say strong alpha males? >> Strong alpha males, yeah. >> Bro, get a grip. Stand up. Listen. >> grip. You're a man. Do you want to mansplain to me?

>> Well, I mean actually you just said that men are better at leading than women. So you should listen every word that comes out of my mouth per your perspective, right? So if you think that men are the

strong alpha males and women are the emotional followers, why don't you follow my lead and listen to what I have to say? Because you don't believe what you say.

>> man. I believe that male and female are created equal in the image of God. We each have the same dignity and the same value. We have the same brain, the same rationality, but we have different and

distinct roles. >> Okay. >> Why is it that women can get pregnant? Only females can get pregnant. >> Well, of course that would boil down to

the physical biology that it >> Physical biology suggests that women are more geared towards child rearing and child raising than men are. >> So once again, the way that we started

this conversation was by me agreeing that there going to be differences between men and women. You just simply disagree. Can I finish? I would love it if I could finish. You can't say because

there's a differences between two things that thereby innately one of the two things is going to be better at leading than the other. Like I think that's ridiculous. Listen, once again, my claim

is that the differences that do exist between men and women ultimately don't amount to justifying the claim that men are better at leading than women. Let me respond because you made a lot of

claims. >> You're going on and on. >> I think it's been the opposite. To respond to your claims, you said that there's a difference in the hormonal

balances of men and women that what? Make women more emotional? Well, I mean I already went over this with a >> It's not even just more emotional. It's that our bodies are not equipped to

handle the same levels of cortisol as men. We need more exercise. >> Look at Donald Trump. The man literally lives off of diet coke and McDonald's. >> Okay.

>> We could not do that. >> Okay. Okay. Listen. Actually, women are more equipped than men to deal with stress. It is proven by the science. >> true.

>> No, I'll I'll tell you. You You can look this up. Anybody at home can look this up. Women have thicker dendrites in their brain. And study after study after study has concluded time and time and

time again that this gives women the ability to better manage their stress than men. And you actually brought this up. You brought up childbirth. The reason why women have thicker dendrites

in their brain giving them a greater navigation ability, giving them a greater giving them a greater ability to deal with their pain and stress is because of childbirth, okay?

>> Yes, because childbirth is what makes women better leaders. We need strong leaders. We need strong leaders. We need strong leaders. We need strong leaders. >> Plus once again, when we look in society

how men deal with stress compared to how women deal with stress, well, when a man gets mad, he commits a violent crime. He kills his wife. He kidnaps his children. He sets his house ablaze. And this is

why men are significantly more likely to commit every single crime on the books including crimes that do not have a necessity for any use of physical strength such as arson, cyberbullying,

>> If you think women are such good leaders, why don't you let me speak? >> Well, I'll happily let you speak in response to the things that I've said as long as you're able to stay on topic and

respond to me in the bottom of the box. >> Because I'm a woman and I have a brain. thank you very much. >> Okay, well I guess women are better at leading than men.

>> No, we're not. We're good at arts, certain roles. We have our strengths and our values. We're good at raising children. We're very smart and adaptable, but men are the people that

need to be out there fighting crime for us, protecting us so that we feel safe and we can keep our children safe. Why do you think that just historically more men are CEOs, more men are presidents,

senators, whatever kind of leadership role you want to talk about? That is not because of white supremacy, colonization, or some kind of legal limit.

>> Okay. >> It's because men are drawn to those roles. Today, women have the same exact rights as men and still a lot of them choose to stay at home or feel that they

can't stay at home because of societal pressures. >> Okay. Well, I think that you said it there at the end, societal pressures. Societal pressures are the reason why I

think that we've seen more men in positions of power, more men in leadership fields, and more men calling the shot. But if you're the the position that underpins your claim here would be

that if we see an overrepresentation of men in a field in comparison to women, that men are then by definition better performing in that field. So in the same way you're claiming that because of a

vast majority of leaders are men, therefore women are worse at leading, would you also claim that men are better at surgery than women because 85% of surgeons are men and 15% of surgeons are

women? I just want to direct yes or no to my question so that I can follow this up with a dialogue. >> become surgeons because it's a more masculine thing. It takes more masculine

traits. They have to look at the blood. I said yes, but I want to ask you >> I have to hop in here. >> that men are more oppressed today than women. Men are told that they're toxic

for being masculine. The only laws that prevent any gender from getting a role >> I need to respond. >> We have laws in favor of women getting leadership roles. We're taking

opportunities away from men. We You are oppressed more than me. >> This chick is crazy. Okay, listen. I think that you're crazy because you just said that I'm more oppressed than you

while also claiming that I'm a better leader than you after making the argument that disproportionately men have been in positions of leadership throughout history when leadership is

what grants power. But anyways, insanity. Listen, I asked you a question. I said, do you think that men are better at surgery than women because 85% of surgeons are men and 15% of

surgeons are women. The reason why I asked this question is because you made the claim that men are better at leading than women because a vast majority of leaders have been men. You said yes,

Dean, because a vast majority of surgeons are men, therefore men are better. The science says no, men are actually worse at surgery. So, the American Medical Association did a study

in conjunction with the Journal of the American Medical Association. They did this study on 1.4 million patients over six continents in 14 years, and what they determined consistently is that

when we account for every single confounding variable that could possibly exist, every single time men are significantly more likely to kill a patient on the operating table or to

give them negative postoperative outcomes in comparison to women. It is one of the most well-accredited studies ever conducted in human history that has reasonably concluded that women are

better at surgery than men, even though they account they account for minority of surgeons. And this is exactly what debunks your claim that if a field is overrepresented by men, that therefore

men are better at performing in it. >> and women are naturally drawn to. >> But women are better at surgery, even though they account for minority of surgeons. That completely debunks your

argument. >> Sure, that could be a thing, but I'm saying that naturally men are drawn towards roles of risk and provision. That's because of innate biological

characteristics. >> women are better at surgery. >> said that you're oppressed because of societal society telling you that you need to be a beta, woke man. You are not

like oppressed as a leader. Like instinctually, you want to lead. You want to teach me. That's because of your nature, and I appreciate that very much. But I disagree with your claims.

>> Okay, well, I mean, you have to concede here that your argument that men are better at leading than women because more men are leaders than women is is false. And the

>> Okay, we got to stop there. We're out of time. So, please return to your seat. >> Pleasure. >> [applause]

>> That surrounded episode you watching got you scratching your head again thinking, damn, I've raid baited myself on a Jubilee video again. Well, I got something else that's going to do the

same thing to you or possibly teach you something. You probably seen me before. I'm Austin Hollyoake Broden, and I'm a Christian populist. >> And I'm David Maddix, and I guess I

could call myself a progressive. On this show, we're doing something revolutionary. We're trying to bridge the gap in a uniquely divided America by destroying these echo chambers and

addressing the issues plaguing everyday Americans. Tune in to our show, The Split, Sunday, June 28th on Jubilee. >> My next surrender claim is Donald Trump is a misogynistic sexual predator. Okay,

if you want to debate this claim, please get to the chair in 3 2 1. >> Hello, my name is Shiva Bagheri. >> What's your name? >> Shiva Bagheri.

>> Shiva Bagheri. Well, uh would you like me to take it away by explaining to you why I think Donald Trump is a misogynistic sexual predator? First and foremost, he's a sexual predator because

a court has held him civilly liable for raping a woman by the name of Carroll. Of course, raping somebody is something that would make one a sexual predator. In 2005, he also boasted about engaging

in sexual violence by sexually exploiting beauty pageant contestants at the beauty pageants that he owned by barging into their dressing rooms and looking at their naked bodies. And this

isn't an allegation from some woman that you could defame and say just wants money or fame. No, this was an admittance of guilt, something that Donald Trump said he did on Howard

Stern's radio show. And I see you shaking your head. I'll happily play you the clip if you want. And we also see >> show me the clip because I do not believe it. Yes, take it out.

>> Don't worry, I got it preloaded. >> Okay, good. >> So so you have done that. Now tell >> Well, I'll tell you the funniest is that I go backstage before a show and

everyone's getting dressed and ready and everything else and you know, no men are anywhere. And I'm allowed to go in because I'm the owner of the pageant and therefore I'm

inspecting it. You know, I'm inspecting I want to make sure that everything is okay. Everything is good. Yeah, the dresses. Everyone okay? You know, that's stated that with no

clothes. Is everybody okay? And you see these incredible looking women. And so I sort of get away with things like that. >> Why don't we start there? Mike's yours.

>> Okay, well, he said that he probably sees them I it doesn't say they're naked there, so I >> It does. >> They might have No, it doesn't.

>> He said that they have no clothes on. When you have no clothes on, you're naked. >> No, who who said that they didn't have clothes on?

>> Donald Trump. >> He didn't say that in the clip. >> Yeah, I'll show you. >> Okay, again, I want to hear it again. >> Everything is good.

Yeah, the dresses. Everyone okay? You know, that's stated that with no clothes. Is everybody okay? You know >> There you go. Oh well, it's a club like a he didn't actually say clothes, but

>> Yeah, yeah, I >> He said club and >> I I I think it's important for us to be intelligent rational people. You say no clothes. And then Howard Stern says, so

you're like a doctor. >> don't agree with that. Okay, first of all, I don't I don't agree with that. Okay, I don't agree with that. Um but men are men and

men have testosterone and men love beautiful women and trust me, I would prefer a man that actually looks at women and is sexually attracted to women >> Dude.

>> than someone that is not. And I actually like looking at women, too, and I'm not even a lesbian, but I think women's bodies are beautiful. It's like >> Ma'am, I'm sorry. No, no, I'm sorry.

>> This is disgusting. No, and >> You just told me that you would prefer a man who quote unquote likes the female body and is willing to barge into the private

>> that before. I said before that I said before that you're No, I said I don't believe that's right. You just lied about me right now because

I said I don't believe what he did was right by going in there. >> But I would prefer a man who likes to look at the naked bodies of women that got it.

>> been over someone that is attracted to other men. Yes, absolutely. Because it's not natural. >> It's not natural to be gay. >> to be attracted to the opposite sex.

>> Define natural. >> Natural is what God made. Adam and Eve. >> So God didn't make gay people? >> Well, actually No, no, that's sin and sin came from the

devil. >> sin is a conscious decision. Being gay is not a conscious decision. >> Well, actually being gay is a conscious decision. You It's an action. It's an

action. >> choose to be gay? >> Huh, yes, absolutely. I actually couldn't choose to be gay when I was younger.

>> choose to be attracted to your mom? >> to a lot of women actually attracted to me and I said no. And I said no. And I said no. >> If attractions are a choice, could you

choose to be attracted to your mom? >> Huh, can you choose to be a pedophile? >> No, I couldn't choose to be a pedophile. Could you choose to be attracted to your mom?

>> oh, so there you go. He thinks No, it's an action, honey, and you can choose to sin or you can choose not to sin. I I try to keep the devil away from me. >> get a clear answer to the question?

>> this is a clear answer. But see, you don't come from a biblical standpoint. >> What are the first four words of the New Testament? >> I I come from a biblical standpoint that

there's two sexes. There's no 50 different genders. That came from a pedophile named John Money who lied about a study to push reassignment surgery on thousands of people through

his lie that butchered this poor boy and put him through hell. Rimer twins, go look it up on Oprah. Okay? >> I'm going to ask the question again. I'm going to ask the question again.

>> Jesus. >> And a moral is a moral. >> Okay, pause. Pause. Everybody pause. Dean, we got to ask that you don't do personal attacks. That's a warning.

>> Okay. All right. So, first and foremost, the question once again was, could you choose to be attracted to your mother? The reason why I asked why I'm asking you this question is because you had

suggested that all attractions are a choice. So, please with a just a concise yes or no, could you choose to literally be sexually aroused by your mother? So, there's two possible answers to this

question. The first possible answer is yes, Dean, I could choose to be attracted to my own mother. And the second possible answer would be no, Dean, I could not choose to be sexually

aroused by my own mother. >> to do a hook on me. I >> Could I just >> Do you have a yes or no for that? >> No, because this is a hook. Because I

will never be attracted to my mother, my father, because I I it it it's a choice, but I would never do that because I'm a Christian. That's

>> That's it. I'm not going to get say that on camera. That's weird. And I'm not going to be in the hook of this young man that's 21-year-old telling a 52-year-old to put say something

disgusting like that. >> Okay. So, you admit that it's disgusting to think that you could choose to be attracted to your mother. >> We got to stop there. That you've been

voted out by the majority. Please return to your seat. If you want to be the next debater, please get to the chair in 3 2 1. Howdy.

>> Hi Dean, how are you? >> I'm doing phenomenal. I'm going to try >> is Zuriel. >> Zuriel, it's a pleasure to meet you. We're going to go back to the prompts. I

think that Donald Trump is a misogynistic sexual predator. The reasons why I think this are some of them that I shared with the last guest. It's because I think that Donald Trump

is a at a civil court determined that he raped a woman by the name of E. Jean Carroll. Uh we listened to that clip of Donald Trump bragging about engaging in sexual violence. Listen, I take a sexual

predator to be somebody that is engaged in sexual violence. Donald Trump bragged about that when he said he'd barge into the dressing rooms of the women at Miss Teen USA and Miss USA. If Donald Trump's

admission of guilt in the clip that I played to the last lady is true, and this is indeed something that Donald Trump has done, then by definition Donald Trump would be a sexual predator,

and thereby by definition I'd be right. >> Can we both agree that people in power of elite, elitist people up there in politics, all have their own maybe their own immoral traits to how why they're

running for candidacy. Like we've heard about Epstein files and there are all these different people that, you know, maybe they're not really here to make a change for us.

>> Yes. >> Can we agree with that? I could care less about what Donald Trump says on the media, cuz I believe as long as he does his very best to be a good president and

do the best for this economy, I don't I don't vote for a president based off oh, their character. I don't I vote for them based off what they can get done, honestly.

>> I would like to just take a moment. Let's look at what you said. Are you saying Dean, it's true Donald Trump is a misogynistic sexual predator, but I could care less because of his policy.

>> What I'm saying is >> Can I just get a straight answer? >> can't deny that maybe he has bad traits of his character. I'm not going to agree that like I don't know everything about

Trump like you do. >> Okay. >> But what I care about is his economy. I don't care about what he has to say >> Let's let's start from the top of this

debate. You sit down. I tell you Donald Trump is a sexual predator. I tell you he's a sexual predator because he raped a woman and boasted about sexually exploiting beauty pageant contestants.

>> why I'm not responding to your question is because I don't know >> Okay, so let's just let's let's test your logic. What do you say? Dean, even if it was true Donald Trump was a sexual

predator because you don't know about the evidence for it, which is something you should look into on your own time. I would still support him as president and could care less. Is that your position?

>> still support him as president because he's does what's best for the economy and for the American dream. >> Yeah. Okay, we got to stop. We got to stop there.

>> You've been voted out. We got to pause there. You wouldn't quote "I would still support Donald Trump as president if he was a sexual predator. If he was a child predator I'd still support him."

>> If you want to be the next debater, please get to the chair in 3 2 >> Hi. >> Hi. >> I'm Liz.

>> Nice to meet you, Liz. >> Nice to meet you. >> Listen, I think that you've heard my arguments. You happen to be sitting in a position where you could hear my voice.

Mike is yours. >> Okay, so my question is because you mentioned Donald Trump going into the women's locker rooms, are all trans people sexual predators?

>> So I would not say that trans women are sexual predators for using the women's restroom. I think that the definition of sexual violence would be any sexual act that is done without consent and I don't

think that this would be true of trans women who use a women's restroom. And I have an argument for why I think that trans women should be able to use a women's restroom, but let's try to take

advantage of our time. Instead of me giving you my argument, let's just hopefully stay on topic with the claim that Donald Trump is a sexual predator because he's raped a woman. He has

boasted about sexually exploiting women by barging into their dressing rooms and looking at their naked bodies without consent and telling Howard Stern how much he loved how incredible they